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Tendulkar v Kohli, who is more clutch?
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Prince EWS
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Clutch is mostly a myth.
"Hey how about we take a discipline in a sport that we really don't have anywhere near enough data on to accurately rate players on as it is, and just ignore 95% of it... for fun!"
Yeah, some players deal with high pressure situations better than others, but with some exceptions it's way too hard to differentiate from just variance.
"Hey how about we take a discipline in a sport that we really don't have anywhere near enough data on to accurately rate players on as it is, and just ignore 95% of it... for fun!"
Yeah, some players deal with high pressure situations better than others, but with some exceptions it's way too hard to differentiate from just variance.
ataraxia
International Coach
But you have to agree that Kohli certainly isn't clutch, of course.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Seems contradictory.
This is just asking for our gut take on who is better to handle pressure.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
It exists, but the evidence we have for it either way is extremely spurious. Hence mostly a myth.
Definitely fair to say Stokes is better under pressure than Ramprakash. Anything in between is probably going to extrapolate too many layers of coincidence IMO.
PEWS is right here. Data collection in cricket is nowhere near some sports like basketball, so why does anyone bother to make judgements based on incomplete information and personal feelings? It's meaningless.
No, you have to see here that the only meaningful trophy Tendulkar won was because of Kohli being more clutch than him. Hence Kohli is more clutch.
the big bambino
Cricketer Of The Year
SRT unless he’s facing McGrath. Then it’s Kohli unless he facing Steve O’Keefe.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Nah. I think if you watch players over 100 test careers, you can tell who will deliver more in pressure situations.
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
It's Kohli and it's not even close
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I tend towards Kohli as well given his chasing record in LOIs.
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
How do you compare an opener in terms of chasing?
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Fair point and maybe it disadvantages Tendulkar but he didn't seem to raise his game as much specific to situations, was just generally consistent.
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Yeah that 36 was clutch as ****
Test cricket, the answer is Gavaskar.
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
This is a bad post.
The question wasn't, "Who is the most clutch Indian bat?"
It was a direct comparison between two specific players. It Gavaskar was better than either he's still not the answer to this question.
It'd be like going into every batsman vs batsman comparison thread and saying, "Neither, it's Bradman."
honestbharani
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