Ravichandran Ashwin vs Ravindra Jadeja

[Thala_0710]

Two of the best spin ARs of all time. Both performed at an ATG level in Asian conditions. But who was better in Asia?
In Asian conditions:
Ashwin: 74 mat 433 wkts @21.76 and 2329 runs @26.77 avg
Jadeja: 51 mat 251 wkts @21.12 and 2108 runs @38.32 avg

 

[Johan]

Ashwin

 

[Thala_0710]

Ashwin

Over time, people who didn't watch this live will definitely start going towards Jadeja more. Base stats certainly favour Jadeja quite a lot.
WPM is the only base metric which reflects just how much more important Ashwin was to India. Finer aspects like bowling responsibility and work load, getting the best opposition batsmen out regularly etc will be lost in time.

 

[Xix2565]

Over time, people who didn't watch this live will definitely start going towards Jadeja more. Base stats certainly favour Jadeja quite a lot.
WPM is the only base metric which reflects just how much more important Ashwin was to India. Finer aspects like bowling responsibility and work load, getting the best opposition batsmen out regularly etc will be lost in time.

Well no, because you can create metrics to take context into account already. People do that with comparisons to other players of the same type within the games, within certain types of conditions, with X percentage of deliveries bowled and so on. And no one's going to rate Jadeja over Ashwin, not when there's still a big gap in volume stats.

 

[Thala_0710]

Well no, because you can create metrics to take context into account already. People do that with comparisons to other players of the same type within the games, within certain types of conditions, with X percentage of deliveries bowled and so on. And no one's going to rate Jadeja over Ashwin, not when there's still a big gap in volume stats.

I don't know, with time I feel as though these polls will go from Ashwin victories to equal in a few years, to Jadeja wins after that. Let's see, hopefully not.

 

[Xix2565]

I don't know, with time I feel as though these polls will go from Ashwin victories to equal in a few years, to Jadeja wins after that. Let's see, hopefully not.

This feels like you're worried about Hazlewood being thought of as a better Test bowler than Cummins in the future. It's unlikely to happen since in both cases the gap is big enough to be near insurmountable. Jadeja would have to literally go Super Saiyan to be better and average like 18 on the most anti-spin conditions of all time for a good few years that he probably doesn't have.

 

[Thala_0710]

This feels like you're worried about Hazlewood being thought of as a better Test bowler than Cummins in the future. It's unlikely to happen since in both cases the gap is big enough to be near insurmountable. Jadeja would have to literally go Super Saiyan to be better and average like 18 on the most anti-spin conditions of all time for a good few years that he probably doesn't have.

Don't see him beating Ashwin as a bowler, but overall as a cricketer, regardless of what he does in the future.

 

[sayon basak]

Shakib

 

[Thala_0710]

Didn't expect this to be this one sided

 

[capt_Luffy]

Didn't expect this to be this one sided

I will say I can go either way. It's like Donald vs Pollock, but Donald can hold his own with the bat