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Shitty umpiring, and also Hadlee being a much better bat, had a lot more to do with that, methinks.
And despite that, NZ under Hadlee were unbeaten at home in the 80s. SL were beaten several times in the 2000s.
Also NZ were the 2nd/3rd best team of the 80s while SL were the 5th or 6th best team of the 2000sdifference in impact of an ATG pacer and an ATG spinner
At their peak, WestIndies lost just one test series in 15 years. It was to NewZealand and Richard Hadlee played an important part.
Facts:
The prequel to ending India's 14 years home reignFacts:
The West Indies arrived in NZ after a dominant and successful tour. They turned up overconfident. Viv, the greatest batsman in the world, had a sore back and didn't come to NZ.
They didn't adapt to lower, and slower pitches. The weather was much colder, the conditions worse (playing cricket in rugby stadiums) and they weren't stars like in cricket-mad Australia.
Apart from Desmond Haynes, the other batsmen tried to play aggressive shots off the back foot as they had in Australia. In NZ pitches of that era the ball didn't bounce much and they became prime LBW candidates. Haynes scored 55 and 140 in the 1st test.
The Windies lost a 3 dayer to Wellington (with Ewen Chatfield who wasn't in the NZ team at the time taking 13 wickets). The WI also lost the one-off ODI to NZ.
NZ cunningly brought a 2nd spinner - John Bracewell - into their squad for the 1st test (but didn't play him). That clever ruse might've won the series as the Windies obviously thought the pitch would turn and picked off spinner Derek Parry instead of the great Andy Roberts.
The players developed a siege mentality and got upset when NZ outplayed them. They thought things were against them and threatened to leave the tour. They even thought NZ had cheated by making the length of the pitch wrong. It was measured and was of course the correct length. They didn't really try hard in the 2nd test when Hadlee scored a century, and he doesn't value that 100 like he valued his match winning bowling in the series.
Fred Goodall, the umpire they didn't like umpired tests from 1965 - 1988. At no other stage in his career was he accused of cheating by visiting teams. He was of course an amateur umpire (he was a school teacher as a regular job).
Interestingly Michael Holding, who infamously kicked out a stump, came to NZ a few summers later to play provincial cricket for Canterbury.
Hadlee was massively superior against the best team than MuraliPossibly you can say that Hadlee was slightly better against the best opposition. Hadlee was very good v West Indies. Murali, ordinary against Australia, especially away and less good against the Indian batters of the day on their own soil.
I mean, both were great at home, Murali was bad away and Hadlee moderate.Hadlee was massively superior against the best team than Murali
"bad" away? why?I mean, both were great at home, Murali was bad away and Hadlee moderate.
Murali being "bad" and Hadlee "moderate" away is some really Narayana tier ****...... But I think he meant specifically against Australia and WI respectively."bad" away? why?
Yes but both with small samples so it's not the biggest deal.Murali being "bad" and Hadlee "moderate" away is some really Narayana tier ****...... But I think he meant specifically against Australia and WI respectively.
1. OverconfidenceFacts:
The West Indies arrived in NZ after a dominant and successful tour of Australia. They turned up overconfident.
Viv, the greatest batsman in the world, had a sore back and didn't come to NZ.
They didn't adapt to lower, and slower pitches.
The weather was much colder, the conditions worse (playing cricket in rugby stadiums) and they weren't stars like in cricket-mad Australia.
Apart from Desmond Haynes, the other batsmen tried to play aggressive shots off the back foot as they had in Australia. In NZ pitches of that era the ball didn't bounce much and they became prime LBW candidates. Haynes scored 55 and 140 in the 1st test.
The Windies lost a 3 dayer to Wellington (with Ewen Chatfield who wasn't in the NZ team at the time taking 13 wickets). The WI also lost the one-off ODI to NZ.
NZ cunningly brought a 2nd spinner - John Bracewell - into their squad for the 1st test (but didn't play him). That clever ruse might've won the series as the Windies obviously thought the pitch would turn and picked off spinner Derek Parry instead of the great Andy Roberts.
The players developed a siege mentality and got upset when NZ outplayed them. They thought things were against them and threatened to leave the tour. They even thought NZ had cheated by making the length of the pitch wrong (2nd test). It was measured and was of course the correct length. They didn't really try hard in the 2nd test when Hadlee scored a century, and he doesn't value that 100 like he valued his match winning bowling in the series.
Fred Goodall, the umpire they didn't like umpired tests from 1965 - 1988. At no other stage in his career was he accused of cheating by visiting teams. He was of course an amateur umpire (he was a school teacher as a regular job).
Interestingly Michael Holding, who infamously kicked out a stump, came to NZ a few summers later to play provincial cricket for Canterbury.
Yeah that conclusion is far too simplistic.ATG pacer is superior to ATG spinner.. but didn't India lose to NZ recently with ATG pacer in the side?