Kumar Ranjitsinhji vs Victor Trumper

[Johan]

Better batsman from the pre Hobbs era?

 

[Thala_0710]

Luffy going against trumper is interesting

 

[Thala_0710]

And Johan going against the Englishman

 

[capt_Luffy]

Luffy going against trumper is interesting

Kinda spilt on them always. Victor has the bigger rep, peak and hence, iconic innings; as well opened regularly. But Ranji averaged a Good 13 runs more, despite playing much more in England. Will go with him, just.

 

[Johan]

And Johan going against the Englishman

Ranji's an interesting character.

 

[Coronis]

I find it hard to rate them both against modern batsmen. Particularly Ranji. Comparing them against one another is much easier.

I think Ranji was the greatest pre WWI batsmen besides Grace and probably Hobbs.

 

[Johan]

Hobbs is definitely above Ranji

 

[Coronis]

Hobbs is definitely above Ranji

I will note here I am also taking into account FC records due to their relative importance of the time. Check out his record in FC vs Hobbs’ pre-war.

 

[Johan]

I will note here I am also taking into account FC records due to their relative importance of the time. Check out his record in FC vs Hobbs’ pre-war.

Yes, but Ranji was extremely fortunate to have Hove as his home ground, it's quite a high scoring ground. Most of the wickets in England of that era were extremely difficult but the Sussex home wicket, in the 1900 season, had a run-per-wicket exceeding 33.5 (high scoring, even in modern terms) and I'd assume that trend followed. That's why I think Ranji's (56) and Charles Fry's (50) First class records flatter them.

 

[ataraxia]

Yes, but Ranji was extremely fortunate to have Hove as his home ground, it's quite a high scoring ground. Most of the wickets in England of that era were extremely difficult but the Sussex home wicket, in the 1900 season, had a run-per-wicket exceeding 33.5 (high scoring, even in modern terms) and I'd assume that trend followed. That's why I think Ranji's (56) and Charles Fry's (50) First class records flatter them.

Yeah but even if that boosted their averages by 4 runs each their averages are still imperious for the time.

 

[Johan]

Yeah but even if that boosted their averages by 4 runs each their averages are still imperious for the time.

their records are Excellent, even if somewhat inflated.