DrWolverine
International Captain
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Better Batsman : Jadeja vs Imran
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subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Same. Quality innings against quality attacks.
lol. Low impact innings on roads. The king of the pointless inning in a drawn match
Career of both
Imran - avg 37 - 6 tons - crossed 50+ 24 times in 126 innings
Jadeja - avg 37 - 5 tons - crossed 50+ 32 times in 128 innings
Avg and ton counts similar, but given Jadeja has batted on far difficult home grounds than IK and yet drastically higher rate of crossing 50, I will take Jadeja.
Imran - avg 37 - 6 tons - crossed 50+ 24 times in 126 innings
Jadeja - avg 37 - 5 tons - crossed 50+ 32 times in 128 innings
Avg and ton counts similar, but given Jadeja has batted on far difficult home grounds than IK and yet drastically higher rate of crossing 50, I will take Jadeja.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Jadeja hundred in a draw at Old Trafford on a road against Archer, Stokes, Carse and Dawson – "words can't describe how impressed I am."
Imran hundred on a tough pitch at Karachi on a dry pitch against Marshall, Garner, Clyde and Croft – "you ****ing donkey!"
Most of Jadeja 50+ scores came in wins and it was not the case of simply in draws. He actually batted at a higher average than his career in wins.
50+ scores in wins:
Jadeja - 20 times
Imran - 5 times
Avg in wins:
Jadeja - 42
Imran - 36
I think many good innings will be present in draws by both as well. For example, Jadeja was intrumental with his lower order runs in series win in Aus and draw in Eng. I am sure IK will have them as well, but no one can accuse Jadeja to not elevate his batting and contribute in wins. Jadeja clears it for me in that aspect.
50+ scores in wins:
Jadeja - 20 times
Imran - 5 times
Avg in wins:
Jadeja - 42
Imran - 36
I think many good innings will be present in draws by both as well. For example, Jadeja was intrumental with his lower order runs in series win in Aus and draw in Eng. I am sure IK will have them as well, but no one can accuse Jadeja to not elevate his batting and contribute in wins. Jadeja clears it for me in that aspect.
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Thala_0710
International Captain
Beefy>Jadeja>Imran for me as bats
the same Karachi where you denigrate the accomplishments of the truly great Miandad
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Miandad is also a better Batsman than Jadeja.
To add more here, lower order runs are often vital in winning tests away.
IK batting record: One 50+ score in win away with avg of 25 - IK played in 9 wins
For Jadeja: Seven 50+ scores and avg of 35 - Jadeja played in 14 wins
Some one may point out that less number of results used to come, but Pakistan had 9 away wins with virtually zero contribution from IK when IK played. Jadeja has seven 50+ scores in 14 wins for India when Jadeja played.
I don't think anyone can accuse Jadeja to score impactless runs in tours.
_00_deathscar
International Regular
I’m sure subz will try to peddle the “it’s inflated by his home tests” **** for his batting again
Curious if you rate Dev higher than IK with the same logic. I am asking because Dev simply had some ATG knocks against fearsome WI attack in their own den.
100* against Marshall, Holding, Garner, Roberts in WI
90 against Marshall, Holding, Roberts in WI
One against new SA but it was hard to score,
129 in SA against Donald/schultz in SA
I will not bother to look his exploits on home gorunds, Botham etc..
I don't put Dev over IK in batting personally. I can see the case if you rate Dev over IK due to quality innings against quality attacks.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No because Dev doesn't have Imran level of output.
Jadeja does. He is also superior to Kapil.
So innings quality is more of a tiebreaker since I think Imran had a higher ceiling.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well innings against the WI quartet, Lillee, Marshall, Hadlee. Plenty of matchsaving knocks. Yeah I'll take that over stuff Jadeja has.
These are the six Test centuries scored by Imran Khan. Other than Port of Spain, these were jokes against popgun attacks.
- 117 vs India in Faisalabad, 1982-83
- 118 vs Sri Lanka in Faisalabad, 1985-86
- 113 vs India in Karachi, 1982-83
- 136 vs Australia in Sydney, 1976-77
- 140 vs Sri Lanka in Kandy, 1985-86
- 118 vs West Indies in Port of Spain, 1976-77
Agonizingly Awkward
School Boy/Girl Captain
Kapil was a better bat than either two.
I think the last series out Jadeja above him, none of the others have that level of sustained output
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Sorry he scored a ton against the WI quartet in 1980. Also a ton in England and in India.
This is a bogus list. Are you just making stuff up now?
How are you measuring it?
Dev has more runs, more tons, more 50+ scores, quality knocks against quality attack. RPI is not even 2 runs difference.
Is it just based on average?
For me, IK goes over Dev in consistency and Jadeja is over Dev/IK both in consistency by some margin.
Actual 50+ scores frequencies matters most to me from a lower order batsman and Jadeja is doing fantastic job with regularly scoring 50+ in all kinds of conditions. Jadeja is helping his team do well on tours and on hard to bat home grounds. He can score zero tons going forward but if he scores lots of 50+ scores in different conditions in future, I will put him over Botham as well.