Are Compton and May ATGs?

[Jane Austen]

I have my cutoff around the Dravid-Sanga-Barrington level of batters. So those guys or the guys whom I rate as better than them. Approximately 20-25 batters I think.

Do Graeme Pollock and/or Viv Richards make the cut? I hope Virendhar Sehwag does.Test average 49+ strike rate 83! A one-off.

Good to see Ken Barrington squeezing in.Even at his consistent peak he was underrated in comparison with the commanding,brilliant Dexter and the stylists Cowdrey and Graveney.

 

[Thala_0710]

Do Graeme Pollock and/or Viv Richards make the cut? I hope Virendhar Sehwag does.Test average 49+ strike rate 83! A one-off.

Pollock and Viv do, Sehwag doesn't

 

[ma1978]

Its an interesting subject to delve into. Now so far into cricket history looking back people have a different perception. But if someone was once considered an ATG, should it be possible for them to then not be ATG later on in the sport’s history? I’m sure it was unfathomable at one point for say, Fred Spofforth not to be one of the top 10 test bowlers of all time and he’d definitely be an ATG. Now? You’d rarely if ever find him on such a list. Its unfathomable currently to think that Steyn could ever not be an ATG, but what might people think in another 100 or 150 years if 30 more pacers are seen as ahead of him? Should ATG as a definition be limited to X number of players or grow as the number of players and great players does?

Varying interpretations I’m sure across many posters on the site.

it has to grow as time passes and number of matches increase. And Spofforth is undeniably an ATG

 

[ataraxia]

May does not have the longevity.

Sure, but he has the quality. He averaged a good 7.5 points higher than one C Hill when overall batsmen in May's games averaged 1.5 less.

 

[trundler]

Sure, but he has the quality. He averaged a good 7.5 points higher than one C Hill when overall batsmen in May's games averaged 1.5 less.

Yeah but that's because of weak kiwi batsmen

 

[ataraxia]

Yeah but that's because of weak kiwi batsmen

Lol they unironically averaged 12 in 9 tests against May. Thankfully the great Kiwi bowlers (read: singular test-quality bowler) of said era restricted a strong English batting side to averaging 31 in the same matches.

 

[Prince EWS]

Yeah but that's because of weak kiwi batsmen

#weakness

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah but that's because of weak kiwi batsmen

Certainly to an extent, but May's Home record is top 3 Ever imo, without accounting for longevity.

 

[capt_Luffy]

If we ignore the 1960 West Indies series where May had big health issues, the average in games among the big four of the time (England, Australia, South Africa and West Indies) which included May, had the average of 26 over forty three games, just one point higher than the general average of May's games. May averaged 49 in those games too.