sayon basak
International Coach
The better cricketer?
That ain't happening.Extremely close, Stokes had recently reverted to a borderline part time bowler though he's returning, I guess Knott for now but if Stokes has a good run of form with both the bat and the ball like he did between 2016 and 2019, it would be him.
we said that about Shubhman Gill scoring runs overseas too.That ain't happening.
Stokes is not as good as Gill.we said that about Shubhman Gill scoring runs overseas too.
McCullum has asked for a greener, bouncier and faster pitch for Lord's and they mostly refuse to make roads regardless, should be a good one.Seriously tho, Gill would probably get a reality check in the next match. Great series already tho.
Stokes is easily better with the bat. Twice as likely to make hundreds, 4 more runs per innings, better strike rate and as you said, he actually played some of the best innings. Knott better against spin but Stokes against pace, and the latter matters more given team configurations and conditions.Stokes a bit more better with the bat ( gets overrated a bit for having knocks that are memorable)
Although bowling has more impact than keeping Stokes is just a decent bowler in comparison with an ATG keeper, so it’s Knott
Basically all of this, and I'm not even sure if Stokes really was a bit better with the bat. Seems pretty close to me. Knott was a fighter.Stokes a bit more better with the bat ( gets overrated a bit for having knocks that are memorable)
Although bowling has more impact than keeping Stokes is just a decent bowler in comparison with an ATG keeper, so it’s Knott
Jeez this is ridiculous, no way they're close as batsman. Stokes has 13 test hundreds ffs. There's literally 4 RPI gap between the two, Stokes had a success in top 5 and has played some of the greatest innings of all time. Reached immense height like 2019 Ashes. I hope you put forward your argument about them being close as batsman, you said due to average right? you talk about strike rate all the time, fwiw stokes' strike rate is close to 60.Basically all of this, and I'm not even sure if Stokes really was a bit better with the bat. Seems pretty close to me. Knott was a fighter.
Don’t think Strike Rate matters much in Tests! Knott averages 57 in West Indies and 62 in PakistanJeez this is ridiculous, no way they're close as batsman. Stokes has 13 test hundreds ffs. There's literally 4 RPI gap between the two, Stokes had a success in top 5 and has played some of the greatest innings of all time. Reached immense height like 2019 Ashes. I hope you put forward your argument about them being close as batsman, you said due to average right? you talk about strike rate all the time, fwiw stokes' strike rate is close to 60.
......so? I doubt late 60s/Early 70s West Indies and Pakistan pitches or bowling lineups were much to write about.Don’t think Strike Rate matters much in Tests! Knott averages 57 in West Indies and 62 in Pakistan
Knott has a Hundred at home against peak Roberts, Daniel and a young Holding in 76’......so? I doubt late 60s/Early 70s West Indies and Pakistan pitches or bowling lineups were much to write about.
...Ok? Stokes scored just as much if not more than that in the last. In 2019 Ashes he scored 441 runs and in 2023 he scored another 405 runs.Knott has a Hundred at home against peak Roberts, Daniel and a young Holding in 76’
His highest score came against Thomson and Pascoe in 77’
One against peak Lillee and Thomson of 74-75.
Knott in fact scored 364 runs in the 74-75 Ashes… for a cricketer having batting as his secondary discipline 300 runs sounds equivalent to 500 for a pure batsmen.
Stokes is definitely the better bat, but not enough better as his around 3 times more 100s showcase.
My hot take is if Knott was actually a Stokes-level batsman in ability, he would be challenging Gilchrist in that greatest wicketkeeper batsman of all time debate. Stokes is a top 6 batsman, and his average undersells his ability because he has had a lot of mitigating factors throughout his career. It feels like people decided they're close as batsmen by simply reading off Cricinfo averages. Prior averages 40, and Stokes is a significantly better batsman than him too.Close overall but no way is Knott anywhere near Stokes as a batsman
read my last sentence...Ok? Stokes scored just as much if not more than that in the last. In 2019 Ashes he scored 441 runs and in 2023 he scored another 405 runs.
And he was playing the great Australian attacks after all, Cummins, Hazlewood, Starc and Lyon.
Stokes also scored an away hundred in South Africa against Rabada and Philander, two of the most dominant pacers at home.
No matter how you slice it, Stokes is easily the better batsman and it's not close enough to be a debate.
Knott is almost unarguably second in the list of wicket keeper batsmen only behind GilchristMy hot take is if Knott was actually a Stokes-level batsman in ability, he would be challenging Gilchrist in that greatest wicketkeeper batsman of all time debate. Stokes is a top 6 batsman, and his average undersells his ability because he has had a lot of mitigating factors throughout his career. It feels like people decided they're close as batsmen by simply reading off Cricinfo averages. Prior averages 40, and Stokes is a significantly better batsman than him too.