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All-Time England XIs - A re-run

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
To clear things up, Order shuffle is allowed. It has happened before quite a few times, as order can't always be planned exactly beforehand. The best example is probs, Kirsten made SA A as an Opener, but was moved to 3 when Goddard made it as well.
You literally specified the opening vote for the openers.

It wasn't choose 3 batsmen. Right is right and this is trying to alter the results to one you prefer.
 

capt_Luffy

International Coach
You literally specified the opening vote for the openers.

It wasn't choose 3 batsmen. Right is right and this is trying to alter the results to one you prefer.
Read from here:

Also it was 5 batsmen for a specific reason, that being England having multiple ATG openers. If the majority of voters don't want him in, he won't make it. He will if they do. Don't claim conspiracy in everything, I tried really hard to run this exercise as much objectively as possible.
 

ataraxia

International Coach
It's actually really tough to run these things in a fair way, because often earlier selections influence later selections in an unfortunate way. Flexibility is the only sensible route. Anyway:

Sutcliffe
Anderson
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
It's actually really tough to run these things in a fair way, because often earlier selections influence later selections in an unfortunate way. Flexibility is the only sensible route. Anyway:

Sutcliffe
Anderson
No, but respectfully it's literally trying to get a 2nd chance to change the vote that's been submitted already.

This isn't oh wait, we forgot about this guy, and he fits in better here. This is literally he lost the first time, but let's trying to slip him in via the back door.

The vote was had and this is trying to manipulate it to override it.
 

capt_Luffy

International Coach
No, but respectfully it's literally trying to get a 2nd chance to change the vote that's been submitted already.

This isn't oh wait, we forgot about this guy, and he fits in better here. This is literally he lost the first time, but let's trying to slip him in via the back door.

The vote was had and this is trying to manipulate it to override it.
Respectfully, it's always has been player over position. As I have previously posted, it's nothing new. Nor it's out of any personal alignment. It would have been the same had I hated the guts of Sutcliffe.
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
Respectfully, it's always has been player over position. As I have previously posted, it's nothing new. Nor it's out of any personal alignment. It would have been the same had I hated the guts of Sutcliffe.
Its ok. He just REALLY doesn’t want Sutcliffe in the first team.
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
No, I had no comment when people were voting for who they want, it's a democratic process.

But this is just bending the rules to fit the desired objective
Not really. We’re voting for another bowler and the final player to complete the team. The final player, whomever they are can fill whichever need the team needs. If people feel Sutcliffe is the best fit, why is that an issue?
 

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