How does Ravindra Jadeja compare with Kapil Dev and Ian Botham ( Tests)

[OverratedSanity]

The Jadeja easy runs at home thing needs to die. Do you ****ers even watch cricket?

This was only true pre 2019 - his actually batting has come on quite a bit since then

Your time lines all wrong. He's been making tough home runs since ~2017

 

[_00_deathscar]

Your time lines all wrong. He's been making tough home runs since ~2017

Meant more the middle order collapse which started around then

 

[PlayerComparisons]

The Jadeja easy runs at home thing needs to die. Do you ****ers even watch cricket?

This was only true pre 2019 - his actually batting has come on quite a bit since then

True

 

[_00_deathscar]

Jadeja since 2022:

27 tests
Batting: 1,629 runs @ 45.25, 4 hundreds
Bowling: 98 wickets @ 25.08

 

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[ImpatientLime]

only one of these three gets dropped on away tours.

 

[ma1978]

only one of these three gets dropped on away tours.

and which one is that?

 

[sayon basak]

and which one is that?

He probably thought that Ravi Jadeja and Ravi Ashwin are the same person.

 

[ImpatientLime]

He probably thought that Ravi Jadeja and Ravi Ashwin are the same person.

i mean since his debut, he's played 36 of indias 70 tests away from home. fewer i might add than ashwin.

 

[h_hurricane]

For the record, Botham has played only 43 of the 72 tests England played away from home during his career. Jadeja has now played only 7 tests less than Botham away from home.

Another interesting stat :

Botham 59 tests at home, 43 away. Home tests vs away tests ratio - 1.37
Jadeja 49 tests at home, 36 away. Home tests vs away tests ratio - 1.36

I don't think it is fair to hold tests played abroad as criteria against Jadeja anymore.

May be Botham is a better player than him which is fair enough.

 

[Al Salvador]

For the record, Botham has played only 43 of the 72 tests England played away from home during his career. Jadeja has now played only 7 tests less than Botham away from home.

Another interesting stat :

Botham 59 tests at home, 43 away. Home tests vs away tests ratio - 1.37
Jadeja 49 tests at home, 36 away. Home tests vs away tests ratio - 1.36

I don't think it is fair to hold tests played abroad as criteria against Jadeja anymore.

May be Botham is a better player than him which is fair enough.

Botham's away record is far better than Jadeja. There's no maybe regarding whether Botham is a better player. Botham was a far superior batsman and clearly better bowler as well. No contest, not close.

 

[ma1978]

Botham's away record is far better than Jadeja. There's no maybe regarding whether Botham is a better player. Botham was a far superior batsman and clearly better bowler as well. No contest, not close.

if he was that good why doesn’t that reflect in his numbers which are markedly worse

 

[Al Salvador]

You spam this logic in every second post. Ok fine why Gavaskar's record is worse than Williamson if he was better?

 

[h_hurricane]

Botham's away record is far better than Jadeja. There's no maybe regarding whether Botham is a better player. Botham was a far superior batsman and clearly better bowler as well. No contest, not close.

You are arguing semantics here when my opinion didn't differ from you overall. Since you mentioned that Botham's away record is far better than Jadeja, it is pertinent to point out that it is not the case.

Botham averages 31 with the bat and 29 with the ball overseas. Jadeja averages 38 with the bat and 36 with the ball abroad.

Perhaps a warning sign that a poster needs to be ignored going forward.

 

[Al Salvador]

You are arguing semantics here when my opinion didn't differ from you overall. Since you mentioned that Botham's away record is far better than Jadeja, it is pertinent to point out that it is not the case.

Botham averages 31 with the bat and 29 with the ball overseas. Jadeja averages 38 with the bat and 36 with the ball abroad.

Perhaps a warning sign that a poster needs to be ignored going forward.

Very nice. Now, let's see — RPI away from home: Jadeja 31.05, Botham 30.98. Barely a difference.
Though, a bowling average difference of 7 is absolutely humongous, which means Botham was much better.
And for one, don’t take the moral high ground by saying "muh which posters need to be ignored" —lmao.

 

[_00_deathscar]

Very nice. Now, let's see — RPI away from home: Jadeja 31.05, Botham 30.98.

And I quote: “Botham was a far superior batsman”

 

[Al Salvador]

And I quote: “Botham was a far superior batsman”

He was, 9 more hundreds, clear gap in rpi. Not everyone take jadeja's average on face value

 

[ma1978]

Very nice. Now, let's see — RPI away from home: Jadeja 31.05, Botham 30.98. Barely a difference.
Though, a bowling average difference of 7 is absolutely humongous, which means Botham was much better.
And for one, don’t take the moral high ground by saying "muh which posters need to be ignored" —lmao.

Botham failed pathetically against the best team of his time, Jadeja has performed against the best team of his time. I know BS nationalistic bias when I see it (and I rate Botham higher than Jadeja but to say there is much in it is nonsense)

 

[Prince EWS]

He was, 9 more hundreds, clear gap in rpi. Not everyone take jadeja's average on face value

Yeah some people just take hundreds and RPI on face value instead lol.

 

[Al Salvador]

Botham failed pathetically against the best team of his time, Jadeja has performed against the best team of his time. I know BS nationalistic bias when I see it (and I rate Botham higher than Jadeja but to say there is much in it is nonsense)

I think I need to be English first to have nationalistic bias for Botham