Greg Chappell vs Bill O'Reilly

[Johan]

Chappell has been on quite a run, he beat Fred Trueman, he beat Raymond Lindwall, he beat Dennis Lillee and then he beat Kumar Sangakkara. Now, let's level up, can Chappell beat the indomitable Tiger O'Reilly.

 

[Johan]

Anyway, O'Reilly for me, went to England and dominated some of the strongest batting lineups of all time on flat pitches, all as a spinner, that's enough to be clear of Chappell who was basically the Australian Denis Compton.

 

[kyear2]

Chappell has been on quite a run, he beat Fred Trueman, he beat Raymond Lindwall, he beat Dennis Lillee and then he beat Kumar Sangakkara. Now, let's level up, can Chappell beat the indomitable Tiger O'Reilly.

Cricketers or just primary?

 

[Johan]

Cricketers or just primary?

primary.

 

[kyear2]

O'Reilly, just....

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Bill

 

[Johan]

@Thala_0710 Give up on Chappell.

 

[Thala_0710]

@Thala_0710 Give up on Chappell.

I don't rate O'Reilly as high

 

[Thala_0710]

Not even a big Chappell fan or anything

 

[Johan]

I don't rate O'Reilly as high

that's the spin equivalent of not rating Steyn

 

[Thala_0710]

that's the spin equivalent of not rating Steyn

I rate O'Reilly as an ATG. Just not that high amongst ATGs

 

[Johan]

I rate O'Reilly as an ATG. Just not that high amongst ATGs

why not? He bowled in a flat era, against GOATed batting lineups with no pace support and averaged 22 (25 vs England).

 

[Johan]

Not even a big Chappell fan or anything

smh you tried to hide Chappell's deficiencies in the Compton comparison, huge Chappell fan.

 

[Thala_0710]

why not? He bowled in a flat era, against GOATed batting lineups with no pace support and averaged 22 (25 vs England).

Longevity/lack of sample size at the international level, although not his fault WWII happened, is the biggest reason

 

[Thala_0710]

smh you tried to hide Chappell's deficiencies in the Compton comparison, huge Chappell fan.

I don't even rate Chappell ahead of Ponting or Root

 

[Johan]

Longevity/lack of sample size at the international level, although not his fault WWII happened, is the biggest reason

Quantity/longevity can't really overwhelm such a big gap in quality though.

 

[Johan]

I don't even rate Chappell ahead of Ponting or Root

Oh...Oh Wow. I guess you also think he's the Australian Denis Compton

 

[Thala_0710]

Quantity/longevity can't really overwhelm such a big gap in quality though.

Should O'Reilly be rated higher than guys like Bumrah? I don't think most people have him in the top 10 bowlers ever, many do have O'Reilly. Although I don't think there's a quality gap or anything.

 

[Johan]

Should O'Reilly be rated higher than guys like Bumrah? I don't think most people have him in the top 10 bowlers ever, many do have O'Reilly. Although I don't think there's a quality gap or anything.

Yeah because he wasn't injury prone and remained a beast until early 40s in First class numbers so around 10 years or so of being elite before the war finished things up. If Bumrah remains high quality until 2028, you better believe that he'll be rated above Chappell.

 

[Thala_0710]

Yeah because he wasn't injury prone and remained a beast until early 40s in First class numbers so around 10 years or so of being elite before the war finished things up. If Bumrah remains high quality until 2028, you better believe that he'll be rated above Chappell.

Yeah that's taking into account first class though, at the test level though not so much. Hence can't have him that high