I mean, one badly placed delivery can still have bad effects, Phil Hughes and Will Pucvoski happened in modern times, not 60 years back. Rather than making up excuses just because you like these Cricketers, just accept that short pitched bowling and risk of the bat getting hurt is a part of the sport, always has been, always will be.
You know about as well as I do that the chances of them happening are significantly lower now than they were pre helmet era. Ofcourse short pitched bowling will carry some amount of risk for the batsman to get hurt, but pretending it's the same with and without helmet, is willful ignorance. You can die of a disease while vaccinated. Don't mean vaccines doesn't reduce the chances exponentially.
the chances being lower doesn't mean anything in context of this discussion, the precedent is still there and the discussion was entirely about morality and intentions rather than about results and effects, just because the chance of injury is lower doesn't mean the willingness to hurt is different.
Literally having a helmet on means you aren't generally getting hurt.
Concussions like Pucovski, Ribs broken like Siddle to Anderson in 2013 Ashes. Would you really make these arguments if Mark Wood unloaded a bouncer barrage at 150 to Bumrah? Again, it's very easy to confess that no matter what the fast bowler does, as long as the fast bowler is fast, there's always the chance of hurting the bat.
Most definitely Yes. I would even if Bumrah suffers a concussion and misses the whole Series. Again, there is always a chance. But there's a difference between ****ing with and without a condom, and ending up pregnant.
Not instantaneously, no. It's a fitting analogy btw.
You realise you're more or less saying you're fine with bowlers trying to hurt and injure players with short pitched spam as long as they are wearing helmet right? My point is, anything short can always cause an injury, especially to a tail ender, bowlers aren't in wrong to bowl it because it's a part of the game and shouldn't be critiqued over short pitched fast bowling unless you can prove the intent is to hurt.
No, I am saying I won't complain if he gets hurt in the process. I hardly doubt Wood will bowl at him to hit him in the head, rather than to make him play a better short. I don't think, again, that bowling short pitched is always with the intention to hurt. Most of the times, it isn't. I don't think Shami/Bumrah wanted Jimmy to have a concussion. But someone like Thomson have legit said he liked to see blood in the pitch. I think that's wrong. Re helmet, my point is it significantly reduces the risk of major injuries. Ofcourse nothing is totally safe. You can die going up the stairs of your home. But it's much safer that way, and I don't necessarily think bowling bouncers at anyone in international level wearing helmet is wrong, unless you legit want to hit them in the head.
You agree with me then, bowling bouncers isn't in itself wrong and people do it all the time without the intent to hurt, you'd have anomalies like Thomson and Gilchrist but it's not reflective of every person who bowls bouncers, lime Trueman or Lindwall, and therefore short pitched pace and just the natural danger that comes with it is fundamentally a part of the sport.
Do you still have Statham as ATVG btw
Ofcourse
I sure am glad @Lillian Thomson isn’t around anymore to hear these slanderous remarks from a fellow pom
Everybody does.
@Lillian Thomson I didn't mean you brother, I meant Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thomson as a duo
