Best bowler to tour England?

[Johan]

a sequel thread to the bats one. Recent discussions on Warne, Murali and Alderman made me make this.

 

[capt_Luffy]

It's Warne. Two ATG Series in the 2000s to follow two Great Series from the 90s.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Impossible to compare. I mean How do we compare someone like O’Reilly in England to someone like Warne?? Bowling to Hammond, Sutcliffe, Hutton, Leyland, Paynter etc is levels and levels above in comparison to those guys that Warne or Murali bowled to??

 

[Johan]

Impossible to compare. I mean How do we compare someone like O’Reilly in England to someone like Warne?? Bowling to Hammond, Sutcliffe, Hutton, Leyland, Paynter etc is levels and levels above in comparison to those guys that Warne or Murali bowled to??

"Oh, it's that bloody Yorkshireman again!

 

[DrWolverine]

A minimum of 30 wickets since 1945

 

[DrWolverine]

Muralitharan : 5 in 6 matches
Alderman : 10 in 12 matches
McGrath : 8 in 14 matches
Donald : 5 in 8 matches

Taking a 5-Fer in more than 50% of matches is impressive.

 

[Johan]

The damage Terry Alderman did to English Cricket is incomprehensible.

 

[DrWolverine]

The damage Terry Alderman did to English Cricket is incomprehensible.

10 5-Fers in 12 matches is just too ridiculous

 

[Johan]

10 5-Fers in 12 matches is just too ridiculous

He felt like he was made in a lab to bowl in England, like a taller more accurate and skillful Anderson for english conditions.

 

[subshakerz]

McGrath > Warne in England.

 

[subshakerz]

McGrath outbowled Warne in 97 and 2001.

Replace him getting injured in 2005 with Warne and Australia still win comfortably.

 

[Johan]

McGrath, Warne, Lillee and Alderman have the best arguments.

 

[shortpitched713]

McGrath > Warne in England.

Atherton still checks under his bed at night for McGrath at Lord's coming to scare him.

 

[Johan]

McGrath, Warne, Lillee and Alderman have the best arguments.

O Reilly also, by far bowled to the best teams.

 

[DrWolverine]

 

[Johan]

Alderman in England.

23 innings, 83 wickets @ 19.34, 42.96 strike rate and 10 fifers and 1 tenfer in 12 games.

lowkey bowled to better lineups arguably than Warne, McGrath and Murali.

 

[DrWolverine]

More than 5 wickets per match
A strike rate less than 50
Average of less than 25
Taking a 5-Fer once every two matches
Muralitharan. McGrath. Alderman Donald.

More than 6 wickets per match
A strike rate less than 50
Average less than 20
Muralitharan. McGrath. Alderman.
Statically they are the top 3 bowlers.

Muralitharan took 48 wickets.
McGrath & Alderman took more than 75 wickets.

In terms of statistics, it’s either McGrath or Alderman.

 

[subshakerz]

McGrath, Warne, Lillee and Alderman have the best arguments.

Warne has no argument honestly because he played alongside a bowler who was definitely better than him in these series.

Murali taking 8WPM deserves a mention.

 

[Johan]

Warne has no argument honestly because he played alongside a bowler who was definitely better than him in these series.

Murali taking 8WPM deserves a mention.

Volume would be a good argument and the 40 wicket series is extremely iconic. But Yeah, I think Alderman>McGrath>Warne>Lillee is what I'm thinking of leaning.

Meh, inflated due to a second string side, Warne/McGrath/Alderman/Lillee are ahead

 

[reyrey]

Muralitharan.

His bowling average of 19.82 is beyond insane when you consider that in those 6 matches England in their 1st innings at bat scored 445, 545, 512, 551, 295, 229

Those were good English batting line ups on batting friendly wickets too.