capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Think Bhuvi can be considered actually. Played some extremely clutch knocks.
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All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread
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Thala_0710
International Captain
Merchant could open as well for mankad if you want to sure up the batting further
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, Merchant walks in if we include FC. But Test only, he just had one good but not exceptional tour.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Actually think will go Bhuvi for Siraj. Siraj did much better with the ball, but Bhuvi was absolutely clutch there with the bat.
Thala_0710
International Captain
Both tours were good I'd say... What about Sunny vs Merchant?
Thala_0710
International Captain
Merchant faced Voce, Verity, Bedser etc there... So it's not like he was facing crap bowlers either
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Accounting FC, Merchant. He legit averages more in England in FC games than anyone bar Don, Headley and Jimmy Cook, even English batters, and had a rep for stickies. Test only it's Sunny.
sayon basak
International Coach
Here's something @peterhrt posted a while ago.
Merchant faced several good bowlers in first-class cricket. Number of dismissals by the better ones (including Tests):
5 - Verity
4 - Gubby Allen
3 - Mankad, Nissar
2 - Dooland, Ghulam Ahmed
1 - Amar Singh, Bedser, Fazal Mahmood, Larwood, Ramadhin, Statham, Tribe
0 - Bailey, Bowes, Laker, Miller, Tom Pritchard, Tarrant, Voce, Jack Walsh
When one or more of these bowlers was in the opposition, Merchant scored 3762 runs at an average of 60.67, with 12 centuries.
Merchant normally opened the batting in England, but not in India. 25 of his 45 first-class hundreds came when he batted between numbers three and six.
Bedser said he was the best overseas batsman he ever saw on rain-affected English pitches.
Thala_0710
International Captain
Even purely tests, I'd say Merchant has a case. Maybe not ahead of Sunny but debatable
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
That's a bowler too short imo. Also if Dev plays he does so as a no 7 or if Jadeja/Mankad plays as well
Thala_0710
International Captain
You need another bowling option. As good as Ganguly was in Eng, he doesn't cut it
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
I think even with one outright poor, one mid, one fine and one good series, the ATG tour takes it comfortably
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
two average tours, two poor tours and one ATG tour
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
That's the reason really I feel Mankar is needed. He legit had one of the best matches with the bat there. 40 with bat and 33 with ball taking 20 are pretty solid returns.
Thala_0710
International Captain
Yeah that's why I have him ahead too, because of the ATG tour. But merchant was good both times he went there.
Good vs great + poor + very poor.... Debatable
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
I did a breakdown of each one. It was one poor, one mid, one good and one ATG
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Mf how did you do an analysis that led to four different serieses when he toured England five times
Thala_0710
International Captain
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
71 poor (though right after debut), 86 mid (3rd highest scorer), 74 good (low scoring + Great ton), 77 ATG (221 highlight), 82 doesn't counts for much (3 innings of 48, 24 and 2).