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Smith vs Lara vs Viv - Who has had the best god mode?

Best series godmode

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subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
kyear2 said:
Again you make **** up.

Wasim vs Lara - 2 dismissals from 7 matches

Wasim vs Tendulkar 1 dismissal from 7 matches

Waqar vs Lara - 3 from 6

Waqar vs Tendulkar 1 from 4

Should be noted though, that Sachin never once played Wasim in his prime, somehow only playing him on the outskirts of. Lara got the best of Wasim's prime.

Vs the South Africa's

Donald vs Lara - 6 from 10
Donald vs Sachin - 5 from 11

Pollock vs Lara - 3 from 15
Pollock vs Tendulkar - 4 from 12

Waqar got Lara a bit more, that's basically it.
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I already gave you the context which you ignored. You are basically showing you never watched anything from that era, don't know the context at all and are just a blind stat reader.

I excluded Lara's debut test and Tendulkar debut series. And Lara's 5 tests against Donald in 2001 when Donald was near done.

So the period we should look at is basically 92 till end of the decade when they faced the same bowlers.
 
kyear2

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
Sliferxxxx said:
You do, because my post wasn't even directed at you I was replying to Kyear but for whatever reason, you felt like defending Sachins honor. And everyone including myself and kyear accept Sachin was better and greater than Brian. But Sachins output vs the best pacers (especially in the 90s) was underwhelming. Get over it.
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It was the idiocy of saying Lara was somehow disqualified for having the same record against the same bowlers.

Sachin is slightly ahead, he played longer and had a better away record. He also played much more into the flat era and faced more minnows.
 
kyear2

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
subshakerz said:
Yeah I don't mind accepting that he was slightly below par versus those attacks in terms of output. That's fair and I have said this before.



Well then we have the same debate where you agree Tendulkar did a bit better.
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This is so very whiny, and you always do this.

According to a friend of mine, always bringing up old ****, 😂
 
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Sliferxxxx

Sliferxxxx

State Vice-Captain
subshakerz said:
Wasim was still pretty good. Waqar was washed up.


Look at the sentence I was replying to. He didn't specify that both played.
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Now that's a lie:

"You really need to give the Sachin worship a rest every now and then. You didn't get me to agree to anything. Look at any of my past posts again, I've always maintained that there is no huge gulf between Lara and Sachin vs the best pacers they both faced; because there isn't. You've yet to prove otherwise. You can use the Sachin scored 100s argument, which is somewhat valid but in terms of actual runs (which is what matters) they are close."
 
kyear2

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
subshakerz said:
I already gave you the context which you ignored. You are basically showing you never watched anything from that era, don't know the context at all and are just a blind stat reader.

I excluded Lara's debut test and Tendulkar debut series. And Lara's 5 tests against Donald in 2001 when Donald was near done.

So the period we should look at is basically 92 till end of the decade when they faced the same bowlers.
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No, we're not doing that. And why you ask?

Those first years that you're down playing are the 4 years that you and others use to differentiate Sachin from the other 5 batsmen in his tier.

His longevity, remember?

24 years, that includes the first two.
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
kyear2 said:
No, we're not doing that. And why you ask?

Those first years that you're down playing are the 4 years that you and others use to differentiate Sachin from the other 5 batsmen in his tier.

His longevity, remember?

24 years, that includes the first two.
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I am including teen Tendulkar against Donald in 1992.

But not his debut series because Waqar was debuting also and Wasim wasn't worldclass even yet. That series means nothing.

Nor Lara debut test.

kyear2 said:
It was the idiocy of saying Lara was somehow disqualified for having the same record against the same bowlers.
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He doesn't have the same in context. In the 90s prime of both bats and bowlers, Tendulkar has more tons and got out less.
 
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subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Sliferxxxx said:
Now that's a lie:

"You really need to give the Sachin worship a rest every now and then. You didn't get me to agree to anything. Look at any of my past posts again, I've always maintained that there is no huge gulf between Lara and Sachin vs the best pacers they both faced; because there isn't. You've yet to prove otherwise. You can use the Sachin scored 100s argument, which is somewhat valid but in terms of actual runs (which is what matters) they are close."
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I was replying to this line:

'Prove me otherwise then Subz. Go on, show me the greats that Sachin averaged significantly more against overall....'

So I assumed you meant more than he did versus Donald and 2Ws.
 
govinda indian fan

govinda indian fan

International Debutant
Sliferxxxx said:
Not just the 2ws and Donald, Sachin was distinctly, imo, worst vs Mcgrath. Yeah Lara got owned in 1997 but Lara returned the favor and then some in 1999. And Mcgrath was almost unplayable in that series. I've always maintained that yes Lara was uncomfortable vs pace but results wise, he isn't that far behind Sachin vs pace. Pity Lara never played Walsh or Ambrose at test level (for obvious reasons). You ever read up on Lara's 180 odd vs Walsh, Rose, Perry etc. And that too, out of a total of 200 odd.
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In 99 series sachin got undone by baised aussie umpires. Got 3 or 4 wrong decisions still averaged 46
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Sliferxxxx said:
Context? Please, your context i translate as excuses given for Sachin but literally for no one else. And it's not just Lara you do the same with Steve Smith.
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Not really? Once you analyse my statements you will realise I am very objective.

My contention isnt that Tendulkar underscored a bit against those attacks, which I grant, just that there is a notable difference between how the two respectively fared when faced against those bowlers in bat and bowler prime.
 
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