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4th Test (Old Trafford, Manchester) - 23rd to 27th of July

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jaydesh

U19 12th Man
India's next test will likely be a dead rubber, and it's a shame Pant won't play. But I'm kind of excited to see how Dhruv Jurel performs. I sometimes feel India are in need of some quiet achievers that don't get embroiled in the toxicity of instant gratification and excessive glitter, while performing the roles necessary for the match situation. Somewhat like how Alex Carey/Beau Webster are for Australia.

For a backup keeper, Jurel has improved with the gloves compared to last test. And his batting has a sense of maturity not always seen with the likes of Gill, Jaiswal, etc.
 
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jaydesh

U19 12th Man
honestbharani said:
I am not denying that. I dont really see how GG survives this test and performance. But I am pissed off coz even if you rearrange the deck chairs, its not gonna be much bettter. Rohit has broken Bumrah and we have very little left in terms of bowling talent without which we aren't winning ****, either home or away.
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It's already been repeated over several years, but I feel it's high team we experiment with specialist coaches based on the format. Gauti is probably better suited for the white ball formats (ODIs, T20s). In test cricket, you need someone with the composure and patience to guide the players in the long format. Someone like VVS Laxman maybe? Or what about bringing Kumble back into the side, given Kohli is not in the picture anymore?
 
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jaydesh

U19 12th Man
Arachnödouche2.0 said:
That Jaiswal wicket looks so bad. So many things an opener should rarely be doing and never in the first over of the innings in overcast conditions.
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I'm kind of torn about Jaiswal to be honest. He is an extremely talented player, no doubt, and there's a good chance he'll have a big career ahead of him. But sometimes he gives me the vibes of the kid in class who thinks he's smarter and cooler than everyone else, only to collapse like 10 pins when the going gets tough. Even if he's young and aggressive, there isn't anything wrong with having a sense of maturity in how you go about things as an opener, particularly against the new ball.

Guys like Yashasvi, Nitish Reddy, Gill, etc. seem to do better in conditions where stroke play is easier (due to flatness of the pitch, or when there is pace/bounce to work with like in Australia). But the moment overhead lights are on, the skies become grey, and the Dukes ball starts to move even marginally, they're all mental midgets. How have they not picked the brains of KL Rahul, who to his credit improved his technique after previous failures in the UK?
 
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Arachnödouche2.0

State Vice-Captain
jaydesh said:
I'm kind of torn about Jaiswal to be honest. He is an extremely talented player, no doubt, and there's a good chance he'll have a big career ahead of him. But sometimes he gives me the vibes of the kid in class who thinks he's smarter and cooler than everyone else, only to collapse like 10 pins when the going gets tough. Even if he's young and aggressive, there isn't anything wrong with having a sense of maturity in how you go about things as an opener, particularly against the new ball.

Guys like Yashasvi, Nitish Reddy, Gill, etc. seem to do better in conditions where stroke play is easier (due to flatness of the pitch, or when there is pace/bounce to work with like in Australia). But the moment overhead lights are on, the skies become grey, and the Dukes ball starts to move even marginally, they're all mental midgets. How have they not picked the brains of KL Rahul, who to his credit improved his technique after previous failures in the UK?
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A lot of it has to be muscle memory and the instinct to attack which is all they've ever known. You can't expect them to be conservative while also pulling off the outrageous stuff that makes them attractive. Hard to untrain that conditioning. Classical batsmen were brought up to only go after rank bad balls and respect everything else. This younger lot actively tries to manufacture shots from good bowling, hence their higher fail rate in testing conditions.
 
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jaydesh

U19 12th Man
halba said:
Its quite sad actually. Bumrah might be relegated to white ball only to preserve the rest of his career.
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I feel like I need to get it off my chest at this point, but why, why, why is fitness only an issue for the Indian players whenever they are playing for India (especially test match cricket) and not IPL? It seems they are all worried about player fitness on these crucial tours, only to be gung-ho about playing some meaningless IPL matches where if anything, chances of injuries are a lot higher. I remember Rohit saying a couple years back that the packed schedules make things harder to keep fit, but that's a BS excuse, in my opinion. Take Bumrah, for example. It was clear by the end of the BGT last winter that he'd been essentially run into the ground due to the lack of support from other bowlers. Why then did he play a huge chunk of the 2025 IPL only to then pick and choose what matches he plays?

On the other side, let's look at Ben Stokes. He used to be a regular in the IPL, while frequenting England's 100 ball upstart competition. But all signs indicate that fitness has been taking a toll on his career, so in order to prolong it and provide the best possible service to his country, he decided to skip IPL. He has also retired from ODI cricket, and hasn't played a T20I for England for a few years at least. And now look at the impact he has on England's test side. In my opinion, if he wins the Ashes down under, he'll be even better than Strauss and Vaughan combined. Joe Root himself has rarely played IPL, but he has always gone the extra mile for the national side with the amount of runs he's scored. He used to have a poor conversion rate as skipper. But now he scores tons like there's no tomorrow.

As Indian players, they need to start putting their country above their own celebrity/franchise status, as well as other meaningless metrics.
 
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