Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
You could literally be describing Seles there too.She had potential but injuries ruined her career. She is definitely not in the same tier as Seles.
You could literally be describing Seles there too.She had potential but injuries ruined her career. She is definitely not in the same tier as Seles.
Injuries are an inherent risk in any athlete’s career. While mismanaging one’s workload and sustaining injury is ultimately a personal responsibilityYou could literally be describing Seles there too.
She is certainly not in a tier behind Seles. Imo Hingis is better than Seles.She had potential but injuries ruined her career. She is definitely not in the same tier as Seles.
It was unfortunate but hardly led to a different outcome. Seles' career is no ways good enough to be a tier higher.Injuries are an inherent risk in any athlete’s career. While mismanaging one’s workload and sustaining injury is ultimately a personal responsibility
But in Monica Seles’ case, what transpired was not just unfortunate; it was one of most chilling moments ever witnessed on a tennis court.
Without doubles, think will agree. If you rate Lenglen and Willis, how come Sampras>Laver!??Top 10 names(no specific order)
Suzanne Lenglen
Helen Willis Moody
Maureen Connolly
Margaret Court
Billie Jean King
Chris Evert
Martina Navratilova
Steffi Graf
Monica Seles
Serena Williams
Excellent list. I see that you're a tennis aficionado like myself.Top 10 names(no specific order)
Suzanne Lenglen
Helen Willis Moody
Maureen Connolly
Margaret Court
Billie Jean King
Chris Evert
Martina Navratilova
Steffi Graf
Monica Seles
Serena Williams
Very good question.Without doubles, think will agree. If you rate Lenglen and Willis, how come Sampras>Laver!??
It was a list made in chronological order. Helen Willis Moody is the most dominant champion. She played 24 Slams, reached 22 Finals and won 18. Yet I would not place the 1920s legend ahead of Chris Evert, Martina Navaratilova, Steffi Graf and Serena Williams.Without doubles, think will agree. If you rate Lenglen and Willis, how come Sampras>Laver!??
Yeah but she is still in Top 10 over the likes of Hingis and Venus. Laver vs Sampras is different from Willis vs Evert or Graaf. Laver not only won 11 majors including 2 Calendar Grand Slams he also won 8 Pro Majors. Lendl played in more Finals than Sampras.It was a list made in chronological order. Helen Willis Moody is the most dominant champion. She played 24 Slams, reached 22 Finals and won 18. Yet I would not place the 1920s legend ahead of Chris Evert, Martina Navaratilova, Steffi Graf and Serena Williams.
Too much difference in achievementsYeah but she is still in Top 10 over the likes of Hingis and Venus.
Yes. Laver was the best player of his era. Pete was the best tennis player of his era.Laver vs Sampras is different from Willis vs Evert or Graaf.
Agreed.Laver not only won 11 majors including 2 Calendar Grand Slams he also won 8 Pro Majors.
A nice quote by Fred Perry (notable player in the 30’s and 40’s)Too much difference in achievements
Yes. Laver was the best player of his era. Pete was the best tennis player of his era.
Agreed.
I have told many times Laver was the best player of his era. Just my opinion that Pete Sampras was a better tennis player.
Does anyone apart from the big 3 have a case for being in the top 3?fwiw here’sa men’s top 10 too, in chronological order
Gonzales
Rosewall
Laver
Connors
Borg
Lendl
Sampras
Federer
Nadal
Djokovic
Found #10 really hard to split. Kept flip flopping between two rivals with completely overlapping careers. Went with the one with the better longevity, even if the other was more of an immediate sensation. Sounds like me, huh? (if you can’t figure out who it is then rip you)
Men’s top 10 was little harder.Found #10 really hard to split.
Does anyone apart from the big 3 have a case for being in the top 3?
Laver is the only one imo, although I put him 4th. Borg if he had a longer career then possibly yes, but with the career that he did have, idts.Bjorn Borg?
Rod Laver?
Laver, but I have him at 4thDoes anyone apart from the big 3 have a case for being in the top 3?
Tilden I found hard to rate, since he barely competed outside of the US open at his prime, and then obviously once past his prime did not perform quite up to some of the pros at the time. Budge also just came in at a really unfortunate time, turned pro right after his grand slam (like Laver), but then was curtailed by WWII. If WWII hadn’t been a thing then boy, Budge was in such dominant form at the end of the 30’s and in 1940…. iirc when he first came into the pros he beat both the leading pros head to head that year (Perry and Vines), which I don’t recall any other player doing in their first year.Men’s top 10 was little harder.
I will give it a try
Bill Tilden
Don Budge
Pancho Gonzales
Ken Rosewall
Rod Laver
Bjorn Borg
Pete Sampras
Roger Federer
Rafael Nadal
Novak Djokovic