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Rabada vs Roberts vs Anderson

Better bowler in tests?


  • Total voters
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DrWolverine

International Vice-Captain
You could literally be describing Seles there too.
Injuries are an inherent risk in any athlete’s career. While mismanaging one’s workload and sustaining injury is ultimately a personal responsibility

But in Monica Seles’ case, what transpired was not just unfortunate; it was one of most chilling moments ever witnessed on a tennis court.
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
She had potential but injuries ruined her career. She is definitely not in the same tier as Seles.
She is certainly not in a tier behind Seles. Imo Hingis is better than Seles.
Injuries are an inherent risk in any athlete’s career. While mismanaging one’s workload and sustaining injury is ultimately a personal responsibility

But in Monica Seles’ case, what transpired was not just unfortunate; it was one of most chilling moments ever witnessed on a tennis court.
It was unfortunate but hardly led to a different outcome. Seles' career is no ways good enough to be a tier higher.
 

Sliferxxxx

State Vice-Captain
Top 5 women tennis players no particular order and ignoring doubles:

Court
Serena
Graf
Martina
Evert

Honorable mentions to:

Helen Wills Moody. 19 majors and dominated the sport without even playing a single Aussie open.

Monica Seles. Would've won more but for that stupid crazed fan. Graf doesn't get 22 without that incident.

Maureen Connolly aka Little Mo. Imo, would've been the goat but for an unfortunate accident and later cancer which took her life at 34.
 

DrWolverine

International Vice-Captain
Top 10 names(no specific order)

Suzanne Lenglen
Helen Willis Moody
Maureen Connolly
Margaret Court
Billie Jean King
Chris Evert
Martina Navratilova
Steffi Graf
Monica Seles
Serena Williams
 

DrWolverine

International Vice-Captain
Without doubles, think will agree. If you rate Lenglen and Willis, how come Sampras>Laver!??
It was a list made in chronological order. Helen Willis Moody is the most dominant champion. She played 24 Slams, reached 22 Finals and won 18. Yet I would not place the 1920s legend ahead of Chris Evert, Martina Navaratilova, Steffi Graf and Serena Williams.
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
It was a list made in chronological order. Helen Willis Moody is the most dominant champion. She played 24 Slams, reached 22 Finals and won 18. Yet I would not place the 1920s legend ahead of Chris Evert, Martina Navaratilova, Steffi Graf and Serena Williams.
Yeah but she is still in Top 10 over the likes of Hingis and Venus. Laver vs Sampras is different from Willis vs Evert or Graaf. Laver not only won 11 majors including 2 Calendar Grand Slams he also won 8 Pro Majors. Lendl played in more Finals than Sampras.
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
fwiw here’sa men’s top 10 too, in chronological order


Gonzales
Rosewall
Laver
Connors
Borg
Lendl
Sampras
Federer
Nadal
Djokovic

Found #10 really hard to split. Kept flip flopping between two rivals with completely overlapping careers. Went with the one with the better longevity, even if the other was more of an immediate sensation. Sounds like me, huh? (if you can’t figure out who it is then rip you)
 

DrWolverine

International Vice-Captain
Yeah but she is still in Top 10 over the likes of Hingis and Venus.
Too much difference in achievements


Laver vs Sampras is different from Willis vs Evert or Graaf.
Yes. Laver was the best player of his era. Pete was the best tennis player of his era.

Laver not only won 11 majors including 2 Calendar Grand Slams he also won 8 Pro Majors.
Agreed.

I have told many times Laver was the best player of his era. Just my opinion that Pete Sampras was a better tennis player.
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
Too much difference in achievements



Yes. Laver was the best player of his era. Pete was the best tennis player of his era.


Agreed.

I have told many times Laver was the best player of his era. Just my opinion that Pete Sampras was a better tennis player.
A nice quote by Fred Perry (notable player in the 30’s and 40’s)

Unfortunately, today, hardly anyone less than 35 or 40 years old remembers many of them. But I must add this: The best of any era had that certain something that would have made them competitive in any other time.

Whether it was Tilden against Borg, or McEnroe against Budge, or Laver against Connors, they would have given us splendid-

First paragraph is something I quite subscribe to when assessing sportsmen.
 

Thala_0710

International Regular
fwiw here’sa men’s top 10 too, in chronological order


Gonzales
Rosewall
Laver
Connors
Borg
Lendl
Sampras
Federer
Nadal
Djokovic

Found #10 really hard to split. Kept flip flopping between two rivals with completely overlapping careers. Went with the one with the better longevity, even if the other was more of an immediate sensation. Sounds like me, huh? (if you can’t figure out who it is then rip you)
Does anyone apart from the big 3 have a case for being in the top 3?
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
Men’s top 10 was little harder.

I will give it a try

Bill Tilden
Don Budge
Pancho Gonzales
Ken Rosewall
Rod Laver
Bjorn Borg
Pete Sampras
Roger Federer
Rafael Nadal
Novak Djokovic
Tilden I found hard to rate, since he barely competed outside of the US open at his prime, and then obviously once past his prime did not perform quite up to some of the pros at the time. Budge also just came in at a really unfortunate time, turned pro right after his grand slam (like Laver), but then was curtailed by WWII. If WWII hadn’t been a thing then boy, Budge was in such dominant form at the end of the 30’s and in 1940…. iirc when he first came into the pros he beat both the leading pros head to head that year (Perry and Vines), which I don’t recall any other player doing in their first year.
 

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