Rank them : Sobers. Viv. Sachin.

[akilana]

Yeah I just changed the text because I realised that. You beat me to it.

But even then I consider Sobers away as very good, but not quite as impressive as the others.

Smart of you to change the text after you realized sachin never had a great away series against a top team.

 

[subshakerz]

Smart of you to change the text after you realized sachin never had a great away series against a top team.

Um he had several.

 

[subshakerz]

How are you so insecure.

Lol if you want insecure let me introduce you to Kyear who puts me on ignore and then constantly mentions my name.

 

[ma1978]

Um he had several.

hello South Africa 2010/2011 amongst many others

 

[ma1978]

All this said 22/3/0 in favor of Sachin exaggerates the difference

 

[Johan]

At this level the differences by player are miniscule. At the end of the day though, Sachin played like 160 tests averaging high 50s without weakness anywhere. That’s an insane stat. I also think the longevity is just cool from a historical standpoint - he played with Viv and Imran and with Kohli and Smith. That’s bridging four generations of cricketers. ATG greats like Warne, Ponting, Dravid and Lara all came after him and went before him. I’m biased but I also think the 1990s were the golden age of cricket given the reemergence of SA, the rise of SL, and the relative balance amongst teams and great pacers.

True, all three are practical equals.

 

[kyear2]

I don't think he was suggesting Tendulkar is overrated, I think he was suggesting that people exaggerate the gap between Viv and Sachin on the basis of longevity rather than Sachin being overrated due to longevity

Basically.

 

[kyear2]

both fandoms like to pretend Cricket started mattering when their player started playing and stopped mattering when their players stopped playing but Sachin fans are just in such a higher quantity, here or away from here, it's Incomparable imo.

Really now?

 

[Johan]

Really now?

don't tell me you've not heard tales of how Viv would average 70 with modern day bats with shorter fields and "bad bowling"

 

[kyear2]

How are you so insecure.

What is crazy about him is that it's all projection. Spends an entire thread doing what he's accusing me of doing with Tendulkar, with Marshall and Imran.

All I said was longevity, in comparison to the **** he's throwing against the wall in the other thread.

He can't help it.

 

[kyear2]

True, all three are practical equals.

Basically how I see it. They all had their advantages though.

Sachin had his technique and greater consistency, navigating the 90's. Viv was just simply the greatest player of high quality pace in the history of the game and his record against the best of his day was near unparalleled, and he dominated series to a greater extent. Sobers somehow managed to combine both attributes for 20 years while bowling 40 overs a match.

They all faced their share of great bowlers and while the other two were more capable of destroying an attack, I give Sachin the edge because he batted consistency higher up the order more than Sobers and was more consistent than Richards.

Yes both comes with context, but the fact remains.

 

[kyear2]

don't tell me you've not heard tales of how Viv would average 70 with modern day bats with shorter fields and "bad bowling"

That's not the point I was referencing.

 

[subshakerz]

All this said 22/3/0 in favor of Sachin exaggerates the difference

Yes expected more for the others.

 

[subshakerz]

What is crazy about him is that it's all projection. Spends an entire thread doing what he's accusing me of doing with Tendulkar, with Marshall and Imran.

All I said was longevity, in comparison to the **** he's throwing against the wall in the other thread.

He can't help it.

Dude if he is going to ignore me then ignore me.

Giving side shots like this while refusing to engage is frickin pathetic.

 

[akilana]

Um he had several.

no.

 

[subshakerz]

no.

Aus 2007/8
SA 2010/11
Would argue Aus 92 as well

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Aus 2007/8
SA 2010/11
Would argue Aus 92 as well

None of those were great attacks. Please stop the glazing. Australia in 2008 consisted of : Lee (who i know you dont rate), Johnson, Clarke, Symonds and Hogg. Australia 92 : seriously. He performed well for his age but there was nothing particularly special about that attack. The SA with Morkel and Steyn is probably the closest to great but I'd give it a very good rating. Steyn was great and unbelievable but Morkel merely good.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Greatest Sachin ever did vs a great attack imo was him averaging 57 away to WI in 1997 vs Ambrose, Walsh and Bishop. Bishop and Ambrose were no where close to their peak or in form but that's Sachin's problem or fault.

 

[subshakerz]

None of those were great attacks. Please stop the glazing. Australia in 2008 consisted of : Lee (who i know you dont rate), Johnson, Clarke, Symonds and Hogg. Australia 92 : seriously. He performed well for his age but there was nothing particularly special about that attack. The SA with Morkel and Steyn is probably the closest to great but I'd give it a very good rating. Steyn was great and unbelievable but Morkel merely good.

By that standard Viv may never had a great series against a great attack. None of 76 Eng, 79 Aus and 80 Pak had two legit great bowlers. Closest is 88 at home against Pak but Wasim was still very young and hardly better than Morkel then.

Btw, Lee was in the middle of his brief worldclass phase when he faced Tendulkar in 2007/8.

 

[ataraxia]

Sachin fans beat others in terms of volume of annoyance, but Viv fans are a special breed of delusional imo.

ATG post tbh