Rank them : Sobers. Viv. Sachin.

[DrWolverine]

Test batsmen

 

[Johan]

Oh this would certainly make for positive discussion that would definitely not devolve into constant rediscussion of years old talking points.

 

[subshakerz]

Sachin: Longevity puts him ahead of all

Viv: Best against ATG pacers and overall no weaknesses in record.

Sobers: Home padding and not much canvas compared to the others.

 

[Johan]

I will not comment but I will say that all of them are virtually equal and any separation between them would come down to people already having an order of ranking in their mind and them trying to justify that order rather than a neutral conclusion.

 

[subshakerz]

I will not comment but I will say that all of them are virtually equal and any separation between them would come down to people already having an order of ranking in their mind and them trying to justify that order rather than a neutral conclusion.

Yes. Overall records of them all are impressive.

I rate away performances as most highly which is why Sobers is last of the three. his away record is very good but not quite as impressive.

Longevity of worldclass performances matter the most then, so Sachin goes ahead of Viv, who is ahead of everyone else based on Godmode performances and playing style.

 

[Johan]

Yes. Overall records of them all are impressive.

I rate away performances as most highly which is why Sobers is last of the three. He never really had a great series away from home against top opposition.

Longevity of worldclass performances matter the most then, so Sachin goes ahead of Viv, who is ahead of everyone else based on Godmode performances and playing style.

1966 England.

 

[subshakerz]

1966 England.

Yeah I just changed the text because I realised that. You beat me to it.

But even then I consider Sobers away as very good, but not quite as impressive as the others.

 

[Johan]

But even then I consider Sobers away as very good, but not quite as impressive as the others.

Yeah I do think other two likely take superiority on away records.

I think Viv is the best batsman of them against pace and in difficult contexts but other two are more reliable when the going is easy and superior against spin bowling.

 

[Coronis]

I think everyone knows my position on this.

 

[Johan]

I think everyone knows my position on this.

I hope you trip from your position.

 

[subshakerz]

I think everyone knows my position on this.

No what is it? Sobers, Sachin, Viv?

 

[Coronis]

No what is it? Sobers, Sachin, Viv?

 

[DrWolverine]

@subshakerz

Gary Sobers in away test series

in NZ :
1955 : 4 Tests. 81 runs. Avg of 16.
1968 : 3 Tests. 70 runs. Avg of 14.

in Ind :
1958 : 5 Tests. 552 runs. Avg of 92.
1966 : 3 Tests. 342 runs. Avg of 114

in Aus :
1960 : 5 Tests. 430 runs. Avg of 43.
1968 : 5 Tests. 497 runs. Avg of 49.

in Eng :
1957 : 5 Tests. 320 runs. Avg of 32.
1963 : 5 Tests. 322 runs. Avg of 40.
1966 : 5 Tests. 722 runs. Avg of 103.
1969 : 3 Tests. 150 runs. Avg of 30.
1973 : 3 Tests. 306 runs. Avg of 76.

 

[Johan]

Sobers by far the best player here though.

 

[kyear2]

I will not comment but I will say that all of them are virtually equal and any separation between them would come down to people already having an order of ranking in their mind and them trying to justify that order rather than a neutral conclusion.

I'm basically here and rate them by best bowlers or attacks faced.

While some easily rate Sachin above Viv due to "longevity", I come back to who was better vs the best bowlers of their day and Viv easily is ahead of Sachin there imo.

So yeah, close between all 3, and when you rank them vs pace and spin.

It's (for me)

pace - Richards, Sobers, Tendulkar
Spin - Tendulkar, Sobers, Richards

 

[subshakerz]

While some easily rate Sachin above Viv due to "longevity"

You also rate Tendulkar ahead

 

[Johan]

You also rate Tendulkar ahead

Keyword – easily

 

[subshakerz]

Keyword – easily

Nobody here I know rates Tendulkar easily ahead.

 

[Johan]

Nobody here I know rates Tendulkar easily ahead.

@Coronis
@Prince EWS
@capt_Luffy
@PlayerComparisons
@OverratedSanity (I don't remember exactly with him tho)

the top two for sure.

 

[OverratedSanity]

While some easily rate Sachin above Viv due to "longevity"

Why is longevity in double quotes as though it's fake