Lance Gibbs vs Anil Kumble

[Johan]

You're rattled, we won

No No, you're meant to say "even you don't believe that man" so it can lead into me saying "Root played in a more professional and competitive era"

 

[BazBall21]

Doesn't necessarily, but is a fair critic.

Kumble would also have been dropped if he bowled on wickets like that at home

 

[capt_Luffy]

Kumble would also have been dropped if he bowled on wickets like that at home

That's a kinda salty response really, for no reason I can make of.

 

[BazBall21]

That's a kinda salty response really, for no reason I can make of.

It's not. It's context.

 

[ma1978]

Gibbs is pretty mid, sort of the Ken Barrington of bowling

 

[Johan]

I mean the Ken Barrington of bowling would absolutely destroy Mr 30-averaging 38-away-averaging Anil Kumble.

 

[capt_Luffy]

It's not. It's context.

The context was literally Gibbs being dropped for 4 years in the middle of his career. Kumble wasn't. He bowled in his fair share of flat tracks, his 2003 BGT being better than Gibbs series on Road.

 

[ma1978]

I mean the Ken Barrington of bowling would absolutely destroy Mr 30-averaging 38-away-averaging Anil Kumble.

why? Would he bore him to death?

 

[Johan]

why? Would he bore him to death?

If you want to entertain people, go to the circus, Cricket is about results.

 

[Johan]

The context was literally Gibbs being dropped for 4 years in the middle of his career. Kumble wasn't.

What 4 years? He was back playing 7-8 games in 1973, 1974 and 1975. in 1970 West Indies didn't play, He was dropped for 4 games in 1971 and 3 games in 1972 and then back.

 

[BazBall21]

The context was literally Gibbs being dropped for 4 years in the middle of his career. Kumble wasn't. He bowled in his fair share of flat tracks, his 2003 BGT being better than Gibbs series on Road.

Given Kumble's almost constant struggle outside Asia before the 2003-04 BGT, it seems far fetched to suggest he would instead be kept in the side as an ever-present lynchpin on some dreadfully roadish pitches. Thus, Gibbs being occasionally dropped isn't very important.

 

[ma1978]

If you want to entertain people, go to the circus, Cricket is about results.

did lnce gibbs ever win anything of use for his country? Ken Barrington? Draw machines both of them

 

[Johan]

did lnce gibbs ever win anything of use for his country? Ken Barrington? Draw machines both of them

Gibbs won many games for West Indies, it's just you have an internal bias against anything not from India or Pakistan, it's quite a sad affair.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Given Kumble's almost constant struggle outside Asia before the 2003-04 BGT, it seems far fetched to suggest he would instead be kept in the side as an ever-present lynchpin on some dreadfully roadish pitches. Thus, Gibbs being occasionally dropped isn't very important.

I don't think 2000s Indian pitches were more of turners than Gibbs over his career, so this argument is so forced it's hilarious.

 

[Johan]

I don't think 2000s Indian pitches were more of turners than Gibbs over his career, so this argument is so forced it's hilarious.

Bookmarked for future Sehwag threads.

 

[Coronis]

did lnce gibbs ever win anything of use for his country? Ken Barrington? Draw machines both of them

As opposed to Kumble right?

 

[BazBall21]

I don't think 2000s Indian pitches were more of turners than Gibbs over his career, so this argument is so forced it's hilarious.

If Gibbs was dropped, it isn't much of a point when he had much tougher home wickets than Kumble and Kumble didn't exactly set the world alight outside Asia for a very long time so who's to say he wouldn't have been dropped too? Just seems very straw-clutchy.

 

[sayon basak]

If you want to entertain people, go to the circus, Cricket is about results.

Quote of the day.

 

[capt_Luffy]

If Gibbs was dropped, it isn't much of a point when he had much tougher home wickets than Kumble and Kumble didn't exactly set the world alight outside Asia for a very long time so who's to say he wouldn't have been dropped too? Just seems very straw-clutchy.

The straw clutchy part really is the one getting dropped can't be criticized for it, and if done, the argument is the other would get dropped too, based on exactly nothing.

 

[BazBall21]

The straw clutchy part really is the one getting dropped can't be criticized for it, and if done, the argument is the other would get dropped too, based on exactly nothing.

I didn't say you aren't entitled to criticise him. I just don't think it makes him qualitatively inferior when given Kumble's struggles outside Asia for a long period of time, he would very likely have suffered the same fate.