Team Trades

[subshakerz]

Do teams make the following trades?

2000s Australia exchanging Hayden for Gavaskar?

80s WI exchanging Walsh for Ashwin?

Current India exchanging Bumrah for Murali?

70s/80s England exchanging Botham for Ponting?

90s Pakistan exchanging Wasim for Kallis?

 

[Johan]

Yes, no reason not to make that trade, plus Gavaskar would win them more in South Africa and England.

Easily, even if Walsh is a better Cricketer.

Yes, Murali wouldn't be playable on these wickets.

No, Botham is simply the better Cricketer.

Hmmm, probably not.

 

[subshakerz]

Yes, no reason not to make that trade, plus Gavaskar would win them more in South Africa and England.

Easily, even if Walsh is a better Cricketer.

Yes, Murali wouldn't be playable on these wickets.

No, Botham is simply the better Cricketer.

Hmmm, probably not.

I think the debate on Hayden vs Gavaskar is if the latter fits into the aggressive streak of that 2000s team.

 

[Johan]

I think the debate on Hayden vs Gavaskar is if the latter fits into the aggressive streak of that 2000s team.

on the same flat wickets, Gavaskar can play some attacking Cricket.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yes. Can see the attack argument, but think when the quality gap is this explicit, it takes precedence.

Yes. Walsh was their 4th pacer, still not a truly World Class bowler, aka Ashwin was just a better bowler. And they had sufficient back ups of him. Harper played quite a many matches for them over that period. Ashwin is a substantial upgrade there, especially useful on the more spin friendly WI pitches.

Yes. With Ashwin gone, don't think taking someone who could be deadlier at home and extremely potent away as well will be a bad trade. Can see the case for Bumrah though.

Not sure. 70s No way. 80s definitely. Overall probably not.

No. 90s Pakistan batting was fine. No point in exchanging their best bowler for a batsman. Close though.

 

[Thala_0710]

Yes
Yes
No
No
No

 

[DrWolverine]

Do teams make the following trades?

2000s Australia exchanging Hayden for Gavaskar? Easily

80s WI exchanging Walsh for Ashwin? Yes

Current India exchanging Bumrah for Murali? Yes. Ashwin has retired. Bumrah will barely play another 25 Tests.

70s/80s England exchanging Botham for Ponting? Before 1982? No

90s Pakistan exchanging Wasim for Kallis? No.

 

[Thala_0710]

Why I said no for the Murali one is even though, Ashwin has retired, we still have Jadeja, Axar, Kuldeep, Sundar and a good couple of new talents in Sai kishore, Kotian etc. I think we will be fine at home. Remove Bumrah from our pace attack and we are garbage away. And Bumrah has been great at home too.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Why I said no for the Murali one is even though, Ashwin has retired, we still have Jadeja, Axar, Kuldeep, Sundar and a good couple of new talents in Sai kishore, Kotian etc. I think we will be fine at home. Remove Bumrah from our pace attack and we are garbage away. And Bumrah has been great at home too.

I thought that too, but Murali is Great away as well. Think the biggest plus is how many over he can bowl.

 

[subshakerz]

I thought that too, but Murali is Great away as well. Think the biggest plus is how many over he can bowl.

Yeah Murali ain't going to break down.

 

[subshakerz]

2000s Australia exchanging Hayden for Gavaskar? Easily

It's not easy at all. Hayden was one of the reasons Aussies were so feared that era. Sunny himself didn't excel in England so his advantage isnt huge.

 

[capt_Luffy]

It's not easy at all. Hayden was one of the reasons Aussies were so feared that era. Sunny himself didn't excel in England so his advantage isnt huge.

Sunny has an absolutely top tier ATG series in England and averaged some 6 runs more. Think saying it's easily is safe to do.

 

[subshakerz]

Sunny has an absolutely top tier ATG series in England and averaged some 6 runs more. Think saying it's easily is safe to do.

Not sure it's the Aussie mindset to just pick a more conservative cricketer based on doing slightly better in maybe 1-2 countries.

 

[Johan]

I wonder if the Australians would pick Boyc over Hayden, Boyc wasn't an aggressive bat (at all) but he sure was an aggressive fella, would probably sledge the whole opposition before the day's done

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Do teams make the following trades?

2000s Australia exchanging Hayden for Gavaskar?

Not sure. Hayden gave a physical presence, quick runs, and a safe pair of hands.

80s WI exchanging Walsh for Ashwin? Yes. Also gives a stronger 8 than Marshall.

Current India exchanging Bumrah for Murali? Only if playing NZ. Bumrah is too valuable against the lesser sides.

70s/80s England exchanging Botham for Ponting? 70s -82 no. 83 onwards - definitely. Would've also been a much better captain than Gower & Gatting and instilled more discipline and professionalism as well as thousands of runs.

90s Pakistan exchanging Wasim for Kallis?
Probably not, but would do wonders for their slip catching

 

[subshakerz]

I wonder if the Australians would pick Boyc over Hayden, Boyc wasn't an aggressive bat (at all) but he sure was an aggressive fella, would probably sledge the whole opposition before the day's done

And his own teammates too.

 

[Johan]

And his own teammates too.

Gilchrist drops a catch off Warne.

"Oy, Gilly, can't you keep properly? my mum with her cleaning gloves on would keep better than ya!"

 

[capt_Luffy]

Not sure it's the Aussie mindset to just pick a more conservative cricketer based on doing slightly better in maybe 1-2 countries.

I think the difference will be on average more than 1-2 countries and 2-3 runs.

 

[DrWolverine]

Not sure it's the Aussie mindset to just pick a more conservative cricketer based on doing slightly better in maybe 1-2 countries.

Having an opener like Sunny who will be tough to dismiss is a huge asset especially in 2025 where batsmen can barely play 2 sessions

 

[DrWolverine]

A reason one can pick Kallis instead of Akram is because the former will just mind his own job and not indulge in infighting/?fixing like the latter did