Dennis Lillee vs Ravichandran Ashwin

[sayon basak]

Eng is fair as 70s England was indeed hard after 60s was easy, Aus isn't because Aus often has a lot of flat pitches to score massive runs on, pacers are just better on flatter wickets, it's not even something @sayon basak would be able to refute.

Not really sure why I'd try doing that.

 

[sayon basak]

Decent in England.
Trash in rest.

So basically, trash.

 

[DrWolverine]

At least he tried and failed

 

[Johan]

Ashwin<Bedser tbh

 

[sayon basak]

Ashwin<Bedser tbh

Not sure where I rate them exactly, But don't think I rate Bedser above Ashwin. It's pretty close for me though.

 

[Johan]

Not sure where I rate them exactly, But don't think I rate Bedser above Ashwin. It's pretty close for me though.

Bedser has an insane peak

 

[sayon basak]

Bedser has an insane peak

Has a pretty bad away record, arguably worse than Ashwin. Averages over 30 everywhere he bowled except England.

 

[Johan]

Has a pretty bad away record, arguably worse than Ashwin. Averages over 30 everywhere he bowled except England.

he has a ATG series in Australia and was better in SA so better than Ash away for me.

 

[sayon basak]

he has a ATG series in Australia and was better in SA so better than Ash away for me.

Fair.

 

[sayon basak]

@PlayerComparisons is very consistent with his votes.

 

[subshakerz]

Lillee is somewhat unproven/middling in SC and WI.

Ashwin is outright poor in SENA.

No comparison.

 

[h_hurricane]

Lillee is somewhat unproven/middling in SC and WI.

Ashwin is outright poor in SENA.

No comparison.

Lillee in SC and WI - 6 wickets @ 90.33

Ashwin in SENA - 72 wickets @ 39.55

If Lillee in SC and WI was to take as many wickets as Ashwin in SENA, he would have needed to get then at an average of 34.94 to be par. No guarantee on that.

Think Lillee is a better bowler than Ashwin but it is reasonable to rate Ashwin as the better cricketer.

 

[subshakerz]

Lillee in SC and WI - 6 wickets @ 90.33

Ashwin in SENA - 72 wickets @ 39.55

If Lillee in SC and WI was to take as many wickets as Ashwin in SENA, he would have needed to get then at an average of 34.94 to be par. No guarantee on that.

Think Lillee is a better bowler than Ashwin but it is reasonable to rate Ashwin as the better cricketer.

Lol Lillee has 1 test in WI, 1 test in SL and 1 three test series in Pakistan. That isn't a fair sample to judge him. He is unproven.

Granted, Lillee did middling in WI in WSC but better than Ashwin did anywhere in SENA.

Ashwin on the other hand has 26 tests across multiple tours over a decade plus in SENA, took less than 3 wickets a test overall and was poor everywhere by the standards we would judge Lillee.

 

[Fanboy375]

Dennis Lillee had a great record in Aus, Eng & NZ.


Ravichandran Ashwin had an extraordinary record in India, SriLanka and WestIndies.

80s NZ batting wasn't impressive.

 

[DrWolverine]

80s NZ batting wasn't impressive.

2010s WI is better than 1980s NZ
Still don’t count them both much

 

[Johan]

2010s WI is better than 1980s NZ
Still don’t count them both much

Delusion.

 

[sayon basak]

Delusion.

+1

 

[capt_Luffy]

Delusion.

Won't say worse, but not really much better either tbh

 

[sayon basak]

Won't say worse, but not really much better either tbh

If I may ask, where would 2000's BD would be? Close?

 

[DrWolverine]

NZ had Hadlee and that’s why they were slightly better. Without him, they were a very weak team in the 1980s