Which Indian team wins in India?

[Xix2565]

Yeah that is the point why Kumble/Harbi are going to be difficult for Kohli's team to handle in these conditions. That's all.

It also applies the other way round, and to a greater extent because the modern pairing is more effective.

 

[Xix2565]

Do you mean would Jadeja's batting average be better in the 2000s? Obviously it would.

Everyone's batting averages would be better lol. Still being braindead about this.

 

[subshakerz]

It also applies the other way round, and to a greater extent because the modern pairing is more effective.

Because of the pitches and if you switched decades for Kumble/Harbi and Ashwin/Jadeja, the former would be more effective.

 

[Prince EWS]

You ignore it for the batting though, lol. Can't pick and choose like a bozo.

I don't.

 

[Xix2565]

Because of the pitches and if you switched decades for Kumble/Harbi and Ashwin/Jadeja, the former would be more effective.

Not really? You haven't shown that to be the case, and it's not like anyone here feels Harbhajan was as good as you wished for him to be for such idiotic discussions.

 

[subshakerz]

Everyone's batting averages would be better lol.

I never denied that. Kohli's team still wouldn't be as a strong batting-wise though even with an average boost.

 

[Xix2565]

I don't.

You're not subshakerz, unless this is an alt reveal.

 

[Xix2565]

I never denied that. Kohli's team still wouldn't as a strong batting-wise though even with an average boost.

That's debatable, especially when the hindsight bias is very strong already.

 

[subshakerz]

Not really? You haven't shown that to be the case, and it's not like anyone here feels Harbhajan was as good as you wished for him to be for such idiotic discussions.

Given many examples of average spinners the past decade reaping the wind on these pitches against Kohli's team, and Harbi is better than them, except Lyon.

 

[Xix2565]

Given many examples of average spinners the past decade reaping the wind on these pitches against Kohli's team, and Harbi is better than them, except Lyon.

That's all your opinion, you haven't proven **** apart from being hopeless here.

 

[subshakerz]

That's all your opinion, you haven't proven **** apart from being hopeless here.

I showed you the stats. It's all official record.

 

[Xix2565]

I showed you the stats. It's all official record.

You just gave the records of the bowlers who played in that era. You didn't do anything with it though so stop lying please.

 

[subshakerz]

You just gave the records of the bowlers who played in that era. You didn't do anything with it though so stop lying please.

I didn't. I gave the key series hauls of visiting spinners to show how relatively easier taking cheap wickets was there.

This puts Ashwin and Jadeja's record in light.

 

[CricAddict]

Harbi would be averaging sub 25 with the ball at home this past decade. In fact, almost any reasonable spinner would.

Jadeja will average in teens on pitches that Harbi averages 25.

 

[subshakerz]

Jadeja will average in teens on pitches that Harbi averages 25.

So we agree it's the pitches thanks.

 

[CricAddict]

Yeah but give him an entire career on those pitches and watch his average keep dropping.

Keep dreaming.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Yikes. I never get the Harbi hate by some Indian posters on this forum.

Because we watched him bowl absolute trash for the second half of his career. The dude put more revolutions on his turban than on the ****ing ball.

 

[Spark]

Given many examples of average spinners the past decade reaping the wind on these pitches against Kohli's team, and Harbi is better than them, except Lyon.

I would take the vast majority over the spinners over the actual Harbhajan's bowling in the last part of his career. He was properly bad.

 

[CricAddict]

So we agree it's the pitches thanks.

No. We agree Harbi is much worse than Jadeja and Ashwin.

 

[subshakerz]

Because we watched him bowl absolute trash for the second half of his career. The dude put more revolutions on his turban than on the ****ing ball.

That was the time he bowled India to victories in SL, WI, SA and NZ though.