stephen
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He gets in because he retired with an average north of 50. He would be largely forgotten if his average was 49 instead.
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Nominate your top 15 best ever test opening batsmen - another in my countdown series
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SillyCowCorner1
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All opinions...they are wrong when you look at them through tinted glass.
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Ah..that's a good shout. Also, Katich retired with an average of over 50...
mr_mister
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A huge part of his legacy was the fact he comfortably passed Bradman's century count and put it to what seemed like near-unassailable heights at the time
Teuton
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Jack Hobbs
Len Hutton
Herb Sutcliffe
Sunil Gavaskar
Barry Richards
Victor Trumper
WG Grace
Geoffrey Boycott
Matthew Hayden
Bruce Mitchell
Bill Lawry
Virender Sehwag
Bob Simpson
Arthur Morris
Alastair Cook
15 not enough....
honourable mentions to Graeme Smith, Gordon Greenidge and Hanif Mohammad
Len Hutton
Herb Sutcliffe
Sunil Gavaskar
Barry Richards
Victor Trumper
WG Grace
Geoffrey Boycott
Matthew Hayden
Bruce Mitchell
Bill Lawry
Virender Sehwag
Bob Simpson
Arthur Morris
Alastair Cook
15 not enough....
honourable mentions to Graeme Smith, Gordon Greenidge and Hanif Mohammad
SillyCowCorner1
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Yes. He sort of changed the role of the opener slot. I don't think we have one of his style in the game atm.
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Actually a very underrated batsman. Would be looked at very differently if he was from another country, probably would have played 100 Tests and average ~45, possibly more
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Definitely none that are anywhere near as good. Warner is pretty close but he's mellowed lately and started scoring at more reasonable rates
Michaelf7777777
International Debutant
1.WG Grace
2.Jack Hobbs
3.Barry Richards
4.Sunil Gavaskar
5.Len Hutton
6.Herbert Sutcliffe
7.Arthur Morris
8.Sid Barnes
9.Graeme Smith
10.Gordon Greenidge
11.Bob Simpson
12.Matthew Hayden
13.Conrad Hunte
14.Herbie Taylor
15.Bill Woodfull
2.Jack Hobbs
3.Barry Richards
4.Sunil Gavaskar
5.Len Hutton
6.Herbert Sutcliffe
7.Arthur Morris
8.Sid Barnes
9.Graeme Smith
10.Gordon Greenidge
11.Bob Simpson
12.Matthew Hayden
13.Conrad Hunte
14.Herbie Taylor
15.Bill Woodfull
SillyCowCorner1
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If he played for a different country, he'd be more of a Graeme Smith type of player.
TNT
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You say he changed the role of opener but you also say we have no one like him.
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Jack Hobbs
Len Hutton
Herb Sutcliffe
Sunil Gavaskar
Geoffrey Boycott
Gordon Greenidge
Bob Simpson
Bruce Mitchell
Graeme Gooch
Bill Lawry
Victor Trumper
Graeme Smith
Matthew Hayden
Virender Sehwag
Alastair Cook
Didn't count Grace or Richards because of the "Test" requirement. Morris would be 16th.
Len Hutton
Herb Sutcliffe
Sunil Gavaskar
Geoffrey Boycott
Gordon Greenidge
Bob Simpson
Bruce Mitchell
Graeme Gooch
Bill Lawry
Victor Trumper
Graeme Smith
Matthew Hayden
Virender Sehwag
Alastair Cook
Didn't count Grace or Richards because of the "Test" requirement. Morris would be 16th.
SillyCowCorner1
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And this is rather ironic because scoring rates in test matches are on the up...It's a different beast now...and the Pakistan roads have opened for transportation recently.
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At the opener's slot he averaged over 50. That's why he was brought into the discussion.
He averages 50.48
TheJediBrah
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We're talking about openers
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stephen
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Yes, but his career average was 45. He spent his prime opening. A bit like Langer, his overall average under sold how good he was as an opener.
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There are no wrong answers, but Gibbs is a wrong answer tbh