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    Robert Key to replace Butcher?

    After Robert Key made his respectable 221 against Windies do you think he should become full time replacement for Mark Butcher?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greencarrot2
    After Robert Key made his respectable 221 against Windies do you think he should become full time replacement for Mark Butcher?
    i do think it is now up to Butcher (a player who I do admire a lot) to oust Key from the team
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    Well butcher is a great fielder and Key is not known for his fielding but he did take that good catch off Chaunderpauls glove that wasnt given out

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    Quote Originally Posted by greencarrot2
    After Robert Key made his respectable 221 against Windies do you think he should become full time replacement for Mark Butcher?
    Well Butcher has proved himself against tough opposition over the years. It's too early to say Key should replace him, on back of one performance. Also this performance was against a not too strong WI bowling team.. IMO opinion its not enough to leave Butcher out ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by delkap
    Well Butcher has proved himself against tough opposition over the years. It's too early to say Key should replace him, on back of one performance. Also this performance was against a not too strong WI bowling team.. IMO opinion its not enough to leave Butcher out ...
    if say Key gets another 100 in the next test, it would be impossible to drop him...considering Butcher hasnt scored a test hundred for 28 innings now

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    Butcher is not a good fielder, not even average, if recent form proves anything. I have no idea about Key's fielding, but hopefully it is better than Butcher's. Neither have much hitting power, though Key can get a lot of runs in boundaries, but can he get enough between wickets? Butcher throws his wicket away after getting a scratchy start repeatedly, while Key played a very long innings. Key will definitely be an option in ODI's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun
    Butcher is not a good fielder, not even average, if recent form proves anything. I have no idea about Key's fielding, but hopefully it is better than Butcher's. Neither have much hitting power, though Key can get a lot of runs in boundaries, but can he get enough between wickets? Butcher throws his wicket away after getting a scratchy start repeatedly, while Key played a very long innings. Key will definitely be an option in ODI's.
    no, Key shouldnt be an option for ODI's....his style of play is suited to the longer game, England have better options as specialist batsmen

    Also, hitting power???? Did you see Key play the other day....and Butcher can fair hit the ball as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greencarrot2
    Well butcher is a great fielder
    err what? if i had a dollar for everytime butcher dropped a catch id be a millionaire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun
    Neither have much hitting power
    because thats what matters in test match cricket

    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun
    Key will definitely be an option in ODI's.
    so you missed the natwest series then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    Also, hitting power???? Did you see Key play the other day....and Butcher can fair hit the ball as well.
    arjun thinks that hitting 4s and 6s is the key to winning matches.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun
    Key will definitely be an option in ODI's.
    No, he won't. He doesn't get anywhere near enough singles.

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    I don't think Key has proven himself enough yet. From what I saw of Key, certainly not he was terrible against the Aussies. One good innings is not enough to merit a full time place in the side.

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    Well after that 221 I would say he is a certainty at this stage for the squad to Tour of South Africa.

    At this stage I see him as a 'fill-in' but if he keeps putting up the runs, they will have the same problem with Kevin Pietersen, who to leave out to fit these two in, which is a nice problem to have if everybody is preforming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool
    so you missed the natwest series then?
    Just one series where he hardly got an opportunity. On form, he would be a good pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    Also, hitting power???? Did you see Key play the other day....and Butcher can fair hit the ball as well.
    He hit more than 20 (how many) fours. He does not hit too many sixes, but in form, he should do so. A team order might have him hitting some. Besides, he's not supposed to hit fours and sixes repeatedly, since there are two players in this team who can do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool
    arjun thinks that hitting 4s and 6s is the key to winning matches.......
    That odd six or four can change a match, but he should not try to be an Adam Gilchrist.

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    No, he won't. He doesn't get anywhere near enough singles.
    Form and team orders may change that.

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