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4 Day Tests
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OverratedSanity
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Who cares about triple centuries anyway, most of them are boring as ****. The real issue is whether bowling teams will be able to get through the required overs to ensure a result.
mr_mister
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I agree. It probably was the reason we didn't get to see Warner at least be able to attempt the 400 recently
But this extra limitation will make even 300s a thing of the past.
I think that's a little sad as a kid the thing I loved most about cricket were batsmen breaking records
Spikey
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Like, they're talking about 4 day tests for the purposes of the test championship, which already heavily promotes winning games over drawing games. We're gonna likely see teams play slightly different anyway to get the full points on offer
The flipside is that you might just see those 600 scores. It's just that the team will have to enforce the follow on, but they might decide that is their best path to victory
The flipside is that you might just see those 600 scores. It's just that the team will have to enforce the follow on, but they might decide that is their best path to victory
mr_mister
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Come on. There's magic to them.
Prince EWS
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Can't wait for Warne to start talking about declaring in the tea break on Day 1.
mr_mister
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In day night tests this wouldn't even be an ironic thing
Spikey
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I don't see why this would be an issue at all. it's the test championship, so they'll actually be something that can be taken away from teams with slow over rates - their points. (Which I have mixed feelings about but that's what they'll do). Teams get through 96 overs in FC cricket, they'll adjust and it'll be fine. My only worry is seeing bad part timers bowl to get through overs quickly, but that happens as it stands anyway.
h_hurricane
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How about the team batting first scoring 500 in 4-5 sessions and then the team batting second bats the rest of the test match seeing no hope of a result. 300 is still possible in this case.
Prince EWS
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Oh yay...
mr_mister
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True I guess. Though I could see the team batting second doing some funky day 4 declaration with only a very small lead just to try the Hail Mary. Paine and Kohli would
mr_mister
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Haha I don't think he was implying it'd be a good thing for cricket
h_hurricane
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Michael Clarkes of this era would be wary of doing it though. They don't want to have the opposition at 250-7 for instance on 4th day evening, behind 400 in the first innings. Knives would be out in no time.
Sehwags of this era could do this though.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...a-1st-test-south-africa-tour-of-india-2007-08
Sehwags of this era could do this though.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...a-1st-test-south-africa-tour-of-india-2007-08
h_hurricane
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Yeah, that is a fair point. But some one like Rohit Sharma, if he gets in a flat pitch might get 100 of 150 and then if stars align might score 300 of 350. Possible, but not probable.
Anyways, I am not a big fan of 300s
Anyways, I am not a big fan of 300s
Cabinet96
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The whole I won't consider them tests anymore! is stupid for the reasons Spikey mentioned. But I just don't see much appeal in removing the 5th day. The arguments that I can think of would be 1) If you know for sure it's only going to be four days, you can squeeze in back to back tests more tightly than you would with five day matches, 2a) It will force teams to play more aggressively in search of results and probably 2b) force pitches to never be complete highways. But all these things have happened organically over the last couple of decades. Scoring rates got higher, in the 2000s, in the 2010s result pitches started being delivered everywhere bar Australia and New Zealand - who have still been able to win tests at home anyway because of their bowling attack - and every big tests series gets comments about how it's the most tightly crammed in big test series ever. When all these things are happening organically anyway you just damage goodwill you have with people if you try to manufacture it to a more extreme degree.
Extra point and the actual biggest drawback I can see to making tests officially four days, is that you're even more vulnerable to the weather. As it currently tests in places like England typically don't last more than 360 overs (i.e. four full days of play), but the 5th day acts as something of a buffer for time lost to rain. You look at the recent Ashes tests at Lords and Old Trafford and they had great 5th days not because the sides played slow cricket to get there, but because the first four days were heavily disrupted by the weather. In a four day test universe, that time lost would've killed any chance of a result (Old Trafford) or interesting draw (Lords).
Extra point and the actual biggest drawback I can see to making tests officially four days, is that you're even more vulnerable to the weather. As it currently tests in places like England typically don't last more than 360 overs (i.e. four full days of play), but the 5th day acts as something of a buffer for time lost to rain. You look at the recent Ashes tests at Lords and Old Trafford and they had great 5th days not because the sides played slow cricket to get there, but because the first four days were heavily disrupted by the weather. In a four day test universe, that time lost would've killed any chance of a result (Old Trafford) or interesting draw (Lords).
harsh.ag
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Something the "what about so many tests ending in 4 days??" crowd is downplaying is that some of those results come through because of the presence of the 5th day looming large in the foreground. If it wasn't for the presence of the 5th day, more tests would be drawn as teams would know they "only" have to bat out till the 4th day and knuckle down more.
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That makes them more exciting to watch, no? Something to play for instead of waiting for the inevitable.