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    Kuggeleijn would get massacred debuting in Australia.

    Even Bond struggled in his first few tests over there.

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    Ferguson has to play every test match imo.

    I think i have PTSD from Lyon and Starc's batting at Adelaide. I can easily see Cummins making good scores down the order unless you have someone who can bowl heat.

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    There is literally no reason the pace attack shouldn't be Wagner, de Grandhomme and Ferguson. The enforcer, the daddy, and the wheels. Keep the bucktooth and the only man who seems to enjoy doing up his top button out of this victory march.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnske View Post
    There is literally no reason the pace attack shouldn't be Wagner, de Grandhomme and Ferguson. The enforcer, the daddy, and the wheels. Keep the bucktooth and the only man who seems to enjoy doing up his top button out of this victory march.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    I really like CdG and think he's brought immense value to the side, particularly at home. But if our horses-for-courses selection policy that's served us so well for the better part of a decade can't see fit to drop a dibbly-dobbly no rounder (I mean that in the most endearing way possible) for a tour of Australia, I think that'd be a failure.
    CDG just has too many attributes for this to ever happen. He's actually one of the best pure batsmen in this side, it's just that he gets it wrong mentally sometimes. And we all know he can biff it if he's given a platform.

    And if it swings with a pink ball he's very handy, then even if it doesn't he can perform a holding role.

    Kuggle will never be an international cricketer in any format. Mark my words. He bowls gun barrel 140km pace which international batsmen have no issue with, and he's a very inconsistent hitter who might have a 30 in his once every series or two. If you want an alternative, pick Neesham.

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    Kuggs is a myth. Dodgy character aside he's just not got the tools to be a genuine bowling only option, nor a bits and pieces all-rounder option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    CDG just has too many attributes for this to ever happen. He's actually one of the best pure batsmen in this side, it's just that he gets it wrong mentally sometimes. And we all know he can biff it if he's given a platform.

    And if it swings with a pink ball he's very handy, then even if it doesn't he can perform a holding role.

    Kuggle will never be an international cricketer in any format. Mark my words. He bowls gun barrel 140km pace which international batsmen have no issue with, and he's a very inconsistent hitter who might have a 30 in his once every series or two. If you want an alternative, pick Neesham.
    I honestly felt like CdG turned a corner with his batting in this Test. Like he figured out when to be mature and measured and when to accelerate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZTailender View Post
    I honestly felt like CdG turned a corner with his batting in this Test. Like he figured out when to be mature and measured and when to accelerate.
    Feel like Test cricket suits CdG. Loves just going at a slow slow strike rate of 90 with no pressure to go fast. Maybe that's why he bats at 4 in T20s. As an aside, he should be an opening option in the shorter formats. Just feel like it would suit his style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milenko47 View Post
    Feel like Test cricket suits CdG. Loves just going at a slow slow strike rate of 90 with no pressure to go fast. Maybe that's why he bats at 4 in T20s. As an aside, he should be an opening option in the shorter formats. Just feel like it would suit his style.
    I always felt CdG was too orthodox to succeed at T20 (and maybe ODIs).

    Powerful hitter, but played in a classical way, sometimes got too cramped up and would get caught in the deep attempting to clear the boundary rather than find the gap. (Plus, visually, it appeared like his bat was too heavy and/or his back-swing too slow for the bowling variations). Suited test cricket playing orthodox attacking cricket with gaps in the outfield.

    Is this still the case? I see he has an IPL contract now so I'm probably 5 years out of date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milenko47 View Post
    Feel like Test cricket suits CdG. Loves just going at a slow slow strike rate of 90 with no pressure to go fast. Maybe that's why he bats at 4 in T20s. As an aside, he should be an opening option in the shorter formats. Just feel like it would suit his style.
    Yup, it's always been the case. His FC numbers have always been far superior to his list A and T20 - even though you look at him as a guy who can wack it to all parts and therefore should be the other way around. He thrives on less score board pressure and more gaps in the field - which as a guy who can play all around the clock, suits him to the ground.

    I think there's a misconception that a) he's a bigger with the bat and b) he doesn't care enough at times. He's actually technically very, very good. Always has been. And he actually cares a lot, which is why he can get tight in certain situations. He's just a hell of a cricketer and I think he's starting to know that now, and trust in his game and own the responsibility.
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    I saw in the post-match interviews that NZ are considering playing both Tastle and Santa in the 2nd test. Argh, but understandable. If they're playing on the slow clay, Lockie might well be surplus to requirements, and now that we're 1-0 up, a tail of Santner, Tastle, Southee and Wagner would make it more likely that we'd secure a draw in the event that things don't go according to plan. Still, argh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    I saw in the post-match interviews that NZ are considering playing both Tastle and Santa in the 2nd test. Argh, but understandable. If they're playing on the slow clay, Lockie might well be surplus to requirements, and now that we're 1-0 up, a tail of Santner, Tastle, Southee and Wagner would make it more likely that we'd secure a draw in the event that things don't go according to plan. Still, argh.
    Yeah I half-joked this would happen. Love to see Southee at 11 as retribution for Broad though.

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    This whole injury cloud over several of our players has really taken the spark out the Aus tests for me personally...Boult's condition so 50/50, CDG basically out, KW with a niggle. UGH.

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    Boult in a race against time to be fit for a critical tour to Australia, the more things change the more things stay the same I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thundaboult View Post
    This whole injury cloud over several of our players has really taken the spark out the Aus tests for me personally...Boult's condition so 50/50, CDG basically out, KW with a niggle. UGH.
    Eh, I've been feeling that way but as long as they don't drop Wagner again I think we're in with a shout.

    Taylor needs to turn up tho

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