New Zealand doom and gloom thread

[Athlai]

I'm actually starting to feel a lot more hopeful about next years world cup.

Williamson, Latham, Mitchell, Conway, Allen, Macewell, Phillips, Santner, Neesham, Southee, Boult, Sodhi, Ferguson, Henry, Jamieson


It's a better seeming squad than I thought we'd have in 2023. And while it is in India, our limited overs spin options are looking very healthy. I could see us being 3rd or 4th favourites going into the tournament if we hit a good patch of form.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

I'm actually starting to feel a lot more hopeful about next years world cup.

Williamson, Latham, Mitchell, Conway, Allen, Macewell, Phillips, Santner, Neesham, Southee, Boult, Sodhi, Ferguson, Henry, Jamieson


It's a better seeming squad than I thought we'd have in 2023. And while it is in India, our limited overs spin options are looking very healthy. I could see us being 3rd or 4th favourites going into the tournament if we hit a good patch of form.

How would u get over another SF/Final loss?

 

[Athlai]

I watched my favourite ever player win the WTC. I can handle any loss now

 

[Prince EWS]

I watched my favourite ever player win the WTC. I can handle any loss now

Pretty sure Jeets didn't play that game.

 

[Athlai]

My love of Jeets goes beyond cricket

 

[thundaboult]

How would u get over another SF/Final loss?

I definitely wouldn't be able to. We are squandering chance and after chance to lift trophies. I swear our chances of winning a trophy after getting into the KO stages is like 10% or something close. Its baaaad. Also the way we play these semi finals and finals is a big concern. There's this constant "lets just make a middling total" and see what happens approach. Surely we can be more positive and aggressive. Get on the front foot and stay there. Let the pressure we apply to the opposition sink take its toll on them.

 

[Athlai]

Also we didn't lose the last ODI world cup final, that was a tie.

 

[Athlai]

And England had some ridiculous good fortune to get to that tie, including getting more runs than should've been given

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

I would simply hit a six every ball not sure why professional cricketers can't do this

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I'm actually starting to feel a lot more hopeful about next years world cup.

Williamson, Latham, Mitchell, Conway, Allen, Macewell, Phillips, Santner, Neesham, Southee, Boult, Sodhi, Ferguson, Henry, Jamieson

I'd prefer to have Conway in the middle order to deal with spin, but then who would open with Allen? Do we pick Guptill, Nicholls, Young, or Ravindra as a bolter? Or should Kane open?

 

[Prince EWS]

I'd prefer to have Conway in the middle order to deal with spin, but then who would open with Allen? Do we pick Guptill, Nicholls, Young, or Ravindra as a bolter? Or should Kane open?

Mitchell an option as well.

 

[Athlai]

I have no idea what the batting lineup will be tbf.

 

[Prince EWS]

I have no idea what the batting lineup will be tbf.

I think Conway will open despite Fuller's protest and you'll get:

1 Allen
2 Conway
3 Williamson
4 Latham
5 Mitchell

6 and 7 will depend on pitch conditions and team balance etc.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

On 2nd thoughts I think so too. Latham is just as good against spin.


Allen
Conway
Williamson
Latham
Mitchell
Phillips
Macewell/Neesham
Santner
Henry
Sodhi/Ferguson
Boult

 

[thierry henry]

Obviously he wouldn’t be the first guy picked in the wrong format, but is Allen kinda one of the first of a generation of players where 50-over form is basically not even a thing anymore and so vibes is the only available selection criteria.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Obviously he wouldn’t be the first guy picked in the wrong format, but is Allen kinda one of the first of a generation of players where 50-over form is basically not even a thing anymore and so vibes is the only available selection criteria.

David Warner.

 

[thierry henry]

David Warner.

I don’t mean his personal 50-over record (although it is poor FWIW), more the general absence of 50 over cricket to judge players on

 

[Athlai]

I reckon Southee is looking more likely than Boult lately. Will be very pleased if Boult starts to really fire again though.

Henry in India fills me with no confidence.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Rippon had a good OD tour of India with NZ A as we lost 3-0 to a very strong India A:

61 off 104 (came in at 61/6) out of 167, and 5 overs 1 for 28.

10* off 13 and 3 overs for 18.

29 off 24 and 7.3 overs 2 for 43.

Would be an interesting option.

 

[Athlai]

Yeah Rippon and Rachin will also probably be close to the squad. Some solid limited overs spin depth right now.