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    Domestic Re-vamp

    I know this is being talked about in the English Domestic thread, but I think it deserves its own. I suspect we might be seeing some changes pretty soon in the domestic set up.

    http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/engla...ry/352518.html

    I will give it some thought, and come back with how I propose it might best work for the England international team, the counties, and the spectators.

    Any thoughts?
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    What's worse than 40-over cricket? Not much - except maybe two innings of 20-overs.

    What a totally shocking idea. I've never considered firebombing more seriously. WTF is that supposed to achieve? 40-over stuff is near-useless - what'd basically be double-Twenty20 would be even more so. Just get rid of the damn thing FFS, and leave a less crowded calender.

    Three-day cricket on covered pitches is a shocking idea - won't work. It might have to be trialled to show that, though. Oh, wait - it already has been!

    Change would be good, but I have to say I hope pretty much everything in this "proposal" is simply vetoed by someone.

    Radical change is pretty well never a good idea in cricket. Change has to be gradual and considered.
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    FFS. All Domestic Cricket needs is this:

    County Championship. 4 day matches. 2 divisions, 1 division, whatever
    One Day League. 50-over matches. 2 divisions preferred
    Knockout Cup. 50-over matches. Includes Minor Counties etc.
    Twenty20. 20-overs, 1 innings. Format needs to be simple. If we got in Ireland and Scotland and had 4 groups of 5 - top 2 through - that'd be fine.


    No need for all the BS.
    Or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    What's worse than 40-over cricket?
    A 21-team T20. Totally ridiculous. We need to reduce the number of teams in the T20, not increase it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamee999 View Post
    FFS. All Domestic Cricket needs is this:

    County Championship. 4 day matches. 2 divisions, 1 division, whatever
    One Day League. 50-over matches. 2 divisions preferred
    Knockout Cup. 50-over matches. Includes Minor Counties etc.
    Twenty20. 20-overs, 1 innings. Format needs to be simple. If we got in Ireland and Scotland and had 4 groups of 5 - top 2 through - that'd be fine.


    No need for all the BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamee999 View Post
    FFS. All Domestic Cricket needs is this:

    County Championship. 4 day matches. 2 divisions, 1 division, whatever
    One Day League. 50-over matches. 2 divisions preferred
    Knockout Cup. 50-over matches. Includes Minor Counties etc.
    Twenty20. 20-overs, 1 innings. Format needs to be simple. If we got in Ireland and Scotland and had 4 groups of 5 - top 2 through - that'd be fine.


    No need for all the BS.
    Seems reasonable... I'd ditch the knockout cup completely, though, no need for two 50 over competitions.

    With the T20 they need to put the quarters/semis/final directly after the rest of the matches. The schedule this season is utterly ridiculous.

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    A knockout competition gives players the chance of a Lord's final, which is a good thing, as is getting this minor counties involved again, as well as Ireland, Scotland, Holland etc

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    A knockout cup is a maximum of five extra matches... and, critically from my PoV, a huge draw and payday for the Minor Counties. Unfortunately we don't seem to figure on the ECB's priority list right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by four_or_six View Post
    A 21-team T20. Totally ridiculous. We need to reduce the number of teams in the T20, not increase it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by four_or_six View Post
    With the T20 they need to put the quarters/semis/final directly after the rest of the matches. The schedule this season is utterly ridiculous.
    AWTA

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    A knockout competition gives players the chance of a Lord's final, which is a good thing, as is getting this minor counties involved again, as well as Ireland, Scotland, Holland etc
    Yeah, I get the point with the minor counties. You could have a Lord's final by just having a play-off for the title like they do in the Aussie one-day competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by four_or_six View Post
    Yeah, I get the point with the minor counties. You could have a Lord's final by just having a play-off for the title like they do in the Aussie one-day competition.
    Yeah you could but I hate leagues being decided by play-offs, that's just me though

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    The knockout Cup, and Lord's final, was one of the few decent things left in the domestic game, until the ECB decided to abolish it to form this 40-over crap.

    It'd be brilliant to see it restored.

    I've long been in favour of a combined league for First-Class and 50-over games (in addition to the knockout Cup) with Twenty20 fitted in in however much it's neccessary\possible.

    If this nonsense detailed in that CricInfo piece starts looking remotely likely to come to pass, the UK contingent of CW needs to lobby the ECB in some way. I'm deadly serious.

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    Making domestic cricket more attractive should have been a top priority following the Ashes victory. Instead they just bundled things around. Making it so people can see the big names playing for the counties more often would be a start, obviously less fixtures would achieve this, and if you had a knockout cup you could make sure that each round didn't clash with internationals, possibly anyway.

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    With the current international calender, international players playing domestic cricket is never going to happen all that much.

    If this EPL idea comes to pass, I truly do hope that international Twenty20 goes ASAP. It's completely pointless. That, plus 10 ODIs only and 7 Test-matches only, and international tours that finished by the start of March (that's a bit idealistic, and depends more on the rest of the SH season than anything in The ECB's power) would leave a few small windows, and I reckon that's the best we can hope for.

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    Don't think international T20 will ever go tbh

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