What is wrong with Auckland cricket?

[The Maestro]

Its recent ODI record is appalling....and while in the longer game they have done well recently.. this season has been totally rubbish

NZ crciket IMO REALLY needs Auckland to be producing top class players and its just not happening

List of contracted players (taken from that ghey cricinfo site so i hope its current-correct)

Nathan Astle

Shane Bond

Chris Cairns

Craig Cumming

Stephen Fleming

James Franklin

Chris Harris

Brendon McCullum

Craig McMillan

Hamish Marshall

James Marshall

Chris Martin

Kyle Mills

Jacob Oram

Michael Papps

Scott Styris

Daryl Tuffey

Daniel Vettori

Lou Vincent

Paul Wiseman


How many Aucklanders among that lot? 2? 3? PATHETIC!!

 

[Ming]

4 actually.

I have a major issue regarding the selecting of the sides, especially the batting side of things where they select only 3 to 4 specialist batsman, and stack the rest of the team with bowlers and domestic bowling allrounders such as Canning, Hitchcock etc. We need to be playing 5 specialist batsman, at least.

 

[BlackCap_Fan]

Auckland cricket seems to be going through a tough period, I guess. There's a lot of good young guys (young, as in my age) that I've played with that are pretty damn good, though so maybe it'll recover. Who knows?

 

[steds]

NZ crciket IMO REALLY needs Auckland to be producing top class players and its just not happening

As long as NZ keeps producing players like Vettori, Bond and Fleming, you shouldn't really give a **** where they come from.

 

[Kweek]

As long as NZ keeps producing players like Vettori, Bond and Fleming, you shouldn't really give a **** where they come from.

 

[Smudge]

As long as NZ keeps producing players like Vettori, Bond and Fleming, you shouldn't really give a **** where they come from.

We should give a *** when the biggest city in the country by some margin is failing to produce players. Sure, the best tracks in the country are on the east coast of the South Island and around Hawke’s Bay, but it is a cause for concern.

 

[SouthernMan]

NZ crciket IMO REALLY needs Auckland to be producing top class players and its just not happening

Why? Canterbury and CD are doing a pretty good job at producing our top class cricketers. Aucklands problem is that alot of their youngsters have to go elsewhere, they play the best years of their career for other provinces Auckland realise these players are half decent and bring them back right near the end of their careers.

 

[sirjeremy11]

1. The weather in Auckland is poor = the pitches are poor. In club cricket, The batsman don't have much of a chance and the bowlers don't have to do a lot when they bowl. (this is a generalisation, I know, but reasonably true)

2. They seem to select 3 or 4 specialist batsmen, then a plethora of all rounders. Whether this is because of a lack of batsmen, or an ignorance to how to find the balance in a team, I don't know. Maybe the all rounders they have are just better than the batsmen in the Auckland area.

 

[Tim]

While other teams like Central Districts were introducing Taylor, Ryder, How etc, Canterbury with Fulton, Papps, Stewart a few years ago..Auckland failed to do the same. They really only gave Rob Nicol a chance.

I suppose because they had a winning team, they didn't want to change their players but they're now stuck with introducing players like Martin Guptill & Carl Cachopa in a transition phase and they're struggling badly.

There is loads of talent in Auckland but Auckland Cricket seemed to fall a step behind everyone else and now they're having to catch-up.

 

[Tim]

Mark O'Donnel seems to be constantly complaining that he never has Vincent, Mills or Styris but he needs to see how badly Canterbury get affected...yet they still continue to perform with their next grouping of players.
And considering Auckland has the biggest club competition in NZ by a country mile, it's a poor excuse to say there are no other options..which would then also suggest that the club competition isn't exactly strong right now.

 

[sirjeremy11]

which would then also suggest that the club competition isn't exactly strong right now.

Bingo.

 

[The Maestro]

As long as NZ keeps producing players like Vettori, Bond and Fleming, you shouldn't really give a **** where they come from.

What an idiotic viewpoint, of course its a conern that the region with the greatest amount of adult cricketers (Im assuming thats right) is not producing top players

Sure we have Vettori and Bond but if Auckland spat out another couple of players slightly better than them dont you think that would be good for our national side?

 

[sirjeremy11]

As long as NZ keeps producing players like Vettori, Bond and Fleming, you shouldn't really give a **** where they come from.

I think it was a lighthearted compliment saying we shouldn't worry about one team not being good. However, yes, the city with over a quarter of the poulation should be able to produce one of the better cricket teams.

 

[The Maestro]

oh

ok sorry if I misinterpreted that then

Im not so much worried about the Auckland team and their results, more indivuals

Fer chrissakes....Horne is a washed up average international, Auckland should be giving a few young guys a shot

(i live in Auckland but support Otago as my cousin and uncle played for them)

 

[sirjeremy11]

Yep. There is that old adage "When Auckland rugby is strong, the All Blacks are strong".

There is not a similar one with relevance to cricket concerning Auckland.

 

[Ming]

It's simple. We play too many bowlers.

Andrew De Boorder is a fine talent, I expect him to get very close to making the starting side next year.

 

[Natman20]

Looking at the Auckland line-up I can see why they don't succeed. They probably are all a pretty bad combination whereas Cantebury have all the good players.

 

[Tim]

I'd expect Martin Guptill & Marc Ellison to make the side ahead of Andrew De Boorder. Both Guptill & Ellison had horrendous averages for the NZ U19's, but they're very good and hopefully they'll bounce back from that.

 

[Ming]

I've seen both Andrew and Ellison bat for a while, and I'm convinced De Boorder is the more talented player. I think Andrew and Tim Southee (both from good ol' Kings) were the only secondary school students in the U19 side.