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**Official** New Zealand v World XI

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Of course, provided the games are given equal status to the Packer matches, it's a might-as-well-then scenario - if there's any officialisation, I'd prefer it not.
 

BlackCap_Fan

State Vice-Captain
Well, we need it - NZC are facing a loss of $3M+ if this doesn't work.

When is the NZ squad to be announced? Any hints as to who's picked (besides Fleming, he's an autopick).
 

Kent

State 12th Man
southern man said:
What no game for Otago cricket thats a disgrace, they lost alot of money from the Qtown one dayer but get nothing, its a disgrace.
Well I'd agree that the pressure is on the Auckland public to vindicate NZC. This is a 'replacement' tour after all, yet in Auckland's case there was nothing to replace. They had their Boxing Day match.

In saying that though, I'm a little bit sick of NZC being on the bones of their a*se all the time. Fancy not even being able to afford reserve days for the State Shield any more - the West Coast might finish mid-table!

Sorry to the Hamiltons, Hawke's Bays and Otagos, but with your populations under 200,000 I have to support the decision. I know the local associations make some decent money through ODI hospitality, so in a perfect world NZC would compensate that loss.
 
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southern man

U19 Cricketer
But it wasn't just NZC who lost money on the cancelled matches. The OCA lost thousands on the cancelled Queenstown one dayer.
 

Kent

State 12th Man
southern man said:
But it wasn't just NZC who lost money on the cancelled matches. The OCA lost thousands on the cancelled Queenstown one dayer.
Yeah I acknowledge that - I heard Blair Furlong at the weekend saying the same thing about Central Districts.

Ideally the NZC would take the International XI to Auckland, get a very big crowd, then pay out the OCA and co. what they were budgeting for.
 

Blewy

Cricketer Of The Year
If Langer puts in some good performances he will be pushing for a spot for sure...
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
More details coming through...the side appears to more accurate.

The games will be played on the 22nd, 24th & 26th of January.

Shane Warne is rumoured to be Captain & along side him will be: Matthew Elliott, Ian Harvey, Andy Bichel, Justin Langer, Michael Bevan, Sanath Jayasuriya, Kumar Sangakarra, Muttiah Muralitharan, Chaminda Vaas, Lance Klusener, Heath Streak & Andy Flower.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Tim said:
More details coming through...the side appears to more accurate.

The games will be played on the 22nd, 24th & 26th of January.

Shane Warne is rumoured to be Captain & along side him will be: Matthew Elliott, Ian Harvey, Andy Bichel, Justin Langer, Michael Bevan, Sanath Jayasuriya, Kumar Sangakarra, Muttiah Muralitharan, Chaminda Vaas, Lance Klusener, Heath Streak & Andy Flower.
How fantastic would it be if the Team was to be Captained by Warne and Murali was Vice Captain ? :laugh: :laugh:
 

mavric41

State Vice-Captain
JASON said:
How fantastic would it be if the Team was to be Captained by Warne and Murali was Vice Captain ? :laugh: :laugh:
I would just like to watch them bowl in tandem. Watching Warne and Vettori tonight was something special.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
mavric41 said:
I would just like to watch them bowl in tandem. Watching Warne and Vettori tonight was something special.
It would be awesome !! Agree seeing Warne and Vettori bowl in Tandem tonight was brilliant .

But then Ponting who obviously has a way of knowing when to make the right changes, brought Goughy on and bingo... there was a break through !!
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I thought it would have been better for Australia 'A' to tour. But would Australia 'A' pull big enough crowds?

While I agree with the concept for N.Z. to gain revenue, I agree with Richard that these games shouldn't be given ODI status.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Getting back to Warne and Murali, from what I have observed over the last week, these two guys have developed a friendship despite their rivalry and Warnie has committed himself to try and help some of the children affected in Sri lanka !!

I commend him for that !! :notworthy :notworthy
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
JASON said:
Getting back to Warne and Murali, from what I have observed over the last week, these two guys have developed a friendship despite their rivalry and Warnie has committed himself to try and help some of the children affected in Sri lanka !!

I commend him for that !! :notworthy :notworthy
They have been friends for a long time now.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Mister Wright said:
I thought it would have been better for Australia 'A' to tour. But would Australia 'A' pull big enough crowds?

While I agree with the concept for N.Z. to gain revenue, I agree with Richard that these games shouldn't be given ODI status.
I doubt if the World XI selected to play NZ would get ODI status !

I suspect the ODI status would only be given to ICC sanctioned games and ICC sanctioned Team selections which represent the World or Continents.

Otherwise there is a potential for things to get out of hand here and every other Cricket Board will start playing their own selections in ODIs and beat the hell out of them to improve their Team's image !! :laugh:
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
JASON said:
I doubt if the World XI selected to play NZ would get ODI status !

I suspect the ODI status would only be given to ICC sanctioned games and ICC sanctioned Team selections which represent the World or Continents.

Otherwise there is a potential forthings to get out of hand here and every other Cricket Board will start playing their own selections in ODIs and beat the hell out of them to improve their Team's image !! :laugh:

Yeah, I know, I was sort of reassuring myself.
 

benchmark00

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Richard said:
Oh Lord above.................
I thought "Rest Of" games had finished with 1970..........
I mean, I can understand wanting to make-up for lost revenue, but really, Rest Of v one country games are such a pointless act.
Please, please don't let the games get any official status.
I dont understand why it's pointless? its good for fans, fans want to see a combination of great players playing together, instead of against each other, something that would never happen without these games. I think its great to see and i for one cant wait until the supertest later this year, World XI Vs Australia in a 6 day match, it'll be truly awesome, and will showcase the best the world has to offer... i dont understand why these are such a bad thing? do you have a phobia of having fun?
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
No, I have a phobia of games that are laid-on against the conventional format - Test and ODI cricket is played by single-nation (or single-region - England And Wales; West Indies) teams, not "X v Rest Of" teams.
Any mhogle can lay-on a game of superstars - hell, Kerry Packer did for ages - and there's a reason why these games aren't Tests or ODIs - because they don't follow the time-honoured format. Otherwise any game anywhere between anyone could be classified Tests or ODIs.
ICC, not for the first time, are skating dangerously close the the wind what with all these games they're throwing out-of-hand into Test and ODI status.
No-one with a feel for the game's history feels anything but contempt for the giving of these games involving random teams the status of "Test" and "ODI". I've nothing against the idea of festival games such as these. But they should not be considered cricket-matches of any status, same way the Packer games weren't. No matter how many snide comments the guys who took part in them make about the standard of play.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
JASON said:
Otherwise there is a potential for things to get out of hand here and every other Cricket Board will start playing their own selections in ODIs and beat the hell out of them to improve their Team's image !! :laugh:
As I've tried to express above, it's a laughable concept, but one that, sadly, is looking more and more like reality every day, especially with this Top Team V Rest Of World artiface proposed for 2005\06.
 

benchmark00

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Richard said:
No, I have a phobia of games that are laid-on against the conventional format - Test and ODI cricket is played by single-nation (or single-region - England And Wales; West Indies) teams, not "X v Rest Of" teams.
Any mhogle can lay-on a game of superstars - hell, Kerry Packer did for ages - and there's a reason why these games aren't Tests or ODIs - because they don't follow the time-honoured format. Otherwise any game anywhere between anyone could be classified Tests or ODIs.
ICC, not for the first time, are skating dangerously close the the wind what with all these games they're throwing out-of-hand into Test and ODI status.
No-one with a feel for the game's history feels anything but contempt for the giving of these games involving random teams the status of "Test" and "ODI". I've nothing against the idea of festival games such as these. But they should not be considered cricket-matches of any status, same way the Packer games weren't. No matter how many snide comments the guys who took part in them make about the standard of play.
ok fair enough, i dont disagree with that, but from your earlier post, i got the impression you were against the idea all together, if not i apologise
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
I'm simply against the things being given official status.
Though with the volume of the real stuff at present it's not ideal anyway.
 

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