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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    Why have you gone with the second best keeper of the series?.
    Didn't Paine drop an absolute sitter, Vince I think at the Gabba? Then because Bairstow has been (marginally) the better of the two. I'm not exactly fussed either way though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    After two,

    Warner
    Stoneman (just beats Bancroft to this position but I'm not confident about the openers staying around long as both play their shots!)
    Root (bugger has to play there whether he likes it or not)
    Smith
    S. Marsh
    Bairstow+
    Cummins (on our two test evidence the bloke is a bona fide all-rounder so I'm treating him as such.)
    Starc (just beats Overton)
    Lyon*
    Hazlewood
    Anderson

    12th Man: Overton

    I've had to resort to five bowlers based upon the premise of playing to one's strengths as the batting stinks. One alternative to this would be the removal of Starc and somebody like Malan, Bancroft or Paine being placed above Cummins. Either way...

    What with Root's putting Australia in and England not following-on - not to mention Smith's generous declaration - both captains have been utterly awful so I've thrown the armband to Lyon for no other reason that he doesn't seem to be able to do anything wrong right now!
    That's fair reasoning. One could even argue that you're picking Cummins for his batting anyway since he's been better than some batsmen.

    And at your reasoning for Root batting 3.

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    After 3 tests (we know this one is over)WarnerKhawagaSMarshSmith *MalanMMarshCumminsPaineStarcLyonHazelwood12th Anderson
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    Warner
    Stoneman
    Smith (c)
    Malan
    S Marsh
    M Marsh
    Bairstow (w/k)
    Starc
    Lyon
    Hazlewood
    Anderson

    Cummins (12th)


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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    WarnerStonemanSmith (c)MalanS MarshM MarshBairstow (w/k)StarcLyonHazlewoodAndersonCummins (12th)
    Cummins to replace Anderson for his batting. Anderson has only got wickets after the match has been decided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    Cummins to replace Anderson for his batting. Anderson has only got wickets after the match has been decided.
    Nah Anderson has been significantly more effective than Cummins across the series. I expect that will change by the end of the tour though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    Warner
    Stoneman
    Smith (c)
    Malan
    S Marsh
    M Marsh
    Bairstow (w/k)
    Starc
    Lyon
    Hazlewood
    Anderson

    Cummins (12th)
    Feels about right at 7 Aussies to 4 Englishmen.


    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    Cummins to replace Anderson for his batting. Anderson has only got wickets after the match has been decided.
    Now you're just getting greedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinzan View Post
    Feels about right at 7 Aussies to 4 Englishmen.




    Now you're just getting greedy.
    I would have Cummins ahead of Anderson too tbh. Cummins has been consistently excellent without luck, Anderson has been consistently ordinary with a couple of wicket-taking spells when he's had the most assistance and at meaningless times of the game.

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    Consistently ordinary is harsh. He's bowled accurately and kept it tight at least.

    Mind you, Cummins still probably does get in because of his batting, which really has been very useful.
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    Cummins is averaging 46 with the bat, which is higher than his highest score of 44. He's been out 3 times in the 40s and was not out for 11 in one innings. Remarkable consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Consistently ordinary is wrong.
    Yep

    I'd still say Cummins has been better though, even just on bowling. Figures don't reflect how well he's bowled.
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    Stoneman for Bancroft.
    Bairstow for Paine.

    Otherwise Aus.


    EDIT: Should have read the subject header. At least it would explain 4 Englishmen being "reasonable"...
    Last edited by Tannhauser; 20-12-2017 at 03:48 PM.
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