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Furball

Evil Scotsman
Because they were playing to take advantage of false conditions that don't exist in the rest of the day's play. That's fair enough, but do I want to see that in every Test Match? Would they have played like that if it was a Day Test?
How's it any different to declaring an innings to have a crack with the new ball at the opposition's top order if the weather changes to make conditions far more bowling friendly?
 

Molehill

International Coach
How's it any different to declaring an innings to have a crack with the new ball at the opposition's top order if the weather changes to make conditions far more bowling friendly?
Because the weather is a natural phenomenon, the sodding floodlights aren't.
 

shortpitched713

Cricketer Of The Year
I am amazed that it has taken until 2015 to have a pink ball Test match under lights.

Literally generations of kids probably never had a chance to enjoy the game live because of silly sanctified traditions. Test cricket is hard enough of a pass time to access as is, without adding artificial constraints like that.
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
Because they were playing to take advantage of false conditions that don't exist in the rest of the day's play. That's fair enough, but do I want to see that in every Test Match? Would they have played like that if it was a Day Test?
I'm quite often on the Moley side of affairs but not on this. Test cricket is about nuance and controlling key moments, and there is a unique way to do this in D/N Tests. It doesn't happen all the time. England owned the 2023 D/N Test at the Mount because they scored fast enough to be bowling twice (?) from memory under lights. Yep I remember right, they got 325-9 dec and had us 30-3 on day one, then smacked 374 in 73 overs to have us 5 down under lights. It's not always straight forward to pull the pin at dusk, you can't be behind in the game and if you are, it's a hell of a risk.
 

Molehill

International Coach
I'm quite often on the Moley side of affairs but not on this. Test cricket is about nuance and controlling key moments, and there is a unique way to do this in D/N Tests. It doesn't happen all the time. England owned the 2023 D/N Test at the Mount because they scored fast enough to be bowling twice (?) from memory under lights. Yep I remember right, they got 325-9 dec and had us 30-3 on day one, then smacked 374 in 73 overs to have us 5 down under lights. It's not always straight forward to pull the pin at dusk, you can't be behind in the game and if you are, it's a hell of a risk.
I think I'm just a traditionalist on this and don't like Day/Nighters full stop. These are not natural nuances, they're fully blown artificial assists.
 

SteveNZ

International Coach
I think I'm just a traditionalist on this and don't like Day/Nighters full stop. These are not natural nuances, they're fully blown artificial assists.
Nah I completely get it. I look back at my posts from 2014 and I was aghast at the idea. But I love it now, I’m disappointed there isn’t one on NZs tour to Australia. I wouldn’t want the majority to be under lights, this would be obscene
 

NotMcKenzie

International Debutant
I am amazed that it has taken until 2015 to have a pink ball Test match under lights.

Literally generations of kids probably never had a chance to enjoy the game live because of silly sanctified traditions. Test cricket is hard enough of a pass time to access as is, without adding artificial constraints like that.
How much? I could always be home in time to see the final session despite having the latest of any school bus.

By your logic, generations of adults must have missed out as well. After all, the work day is longer than the school day (at least in Australia). They also seemed to be popular enough during the days of the 48- or 60-hour week.

Also, the development of suitable balls was a long sticking point, and in my view the pink ball is still not quite right.
 

shortpitched713

Cricketer Of The Year
If you can make a red ball, then you made a white ball, then finally you could make a pink ball. Wow, doesn't seem like rocket science to me.

More like powerful traditionalist forces hampering the accessibility of the best form of the game, for mine.
 

ataraxia

International Coach
If you can make a red ball, then you made a white ball, then finally you could make a pink ball. Wow, doesn't seem like rocket science to me.

More like powerful traditionalist forces hampering the accessibility of the best form of the game, for mine.
Well apart from the fact that the white and pink balls are empirically crap, sure.
 

shortpitched713

Cricketer Of The Year
Well apart from the fact that the white and pink balls are empirically crap, sure.
Well yes, but I don't think this is as much a technology issue with the pink ball, as they lead us to believe. Ultimately I don't think you have to make a ball super dark, for it to hold a shine and keep it's condition. It could be orange, or any other bright color, but yeah I think it's a joke.
 

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