Which players you think are not considered all rounders but their stat is like all rounders? (Considering their era )

[BoyBrumby]

Sounds similar to Hammond

Yeah, stats wise very much of an ilk.

Hammond bowled slightly more (15 and a half overs per test) with slightly worse returns (just under a wicket a test at 37.81 each) but, from what I've read and heard over the years, definitely had the ability to have been a genuine all-rounder had he opted to specialise. Reputedly pretty sharp in his younger days.

Also a noted slip fielder too, kinda the proto-Kallis, almost.

Speaking of reading about Wally, our very own fredfertang penned a rather magnificent piece on the great man that I feel obliged to plug:

A Complex Man | Cricket Web

 

[kevinw]

Heath Streak? 22 batting average. But ended up batting in the top six.

 

[Ali TT]

Heath Streak? 22 batting average. But ended up batting in the top six.

Wasn't the whole Zimbabwe side of the late 90s basically eleven all rounders

 

[reyrey]

Dion Nash and his all round ability gets largely ignored as he played at the same time as Chris Cairns.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Wasn't the whole Zimbabwe side of the late 90s basically eleven all rounders

A lot of them were all rounders in the same way that English players like Dominic Cork and Robert Croft were "all-rounders". In domestic cricket (which in Zimbabwe especially was very weak) they could bat but at International level, not really.

We have them in grade cricket blokes who bat 5 or 6 for their club but when they get to Shield they are basically tail-enders

 

[Molehill]

Given where Imran Khan's batting started from, I doubt anyone thought he'd be an all rounder.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Given where Imran Khan's batting started from, I doubt anyone thought he'd be an all rounder.

Likewise D Vettori who started at no 11

 

[honestbharani]

Ravi Shastri too.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Mark Craig was surprisingly good with the bat (averaged about 36) and took enough wickets but economy rate was so high his bowling av of mid 40s

 

[Daemon]

Steve Waugh

 

[howitzer]

Mark Craig was surprisingly good with the bat (averaged about 36) and took enough wickets but economy rate was so high his bowling av of mid 40s

Craig was essentially in an unusual category of player where he was initially picked for his bowling, but, a couple of matches aside, became more useful with his batting. Vettori sort of fits this too but over a much longer period. I'm ignoring players like Steve Smith who were always going to mostly be batsmen and were selected for their bowling due to desperation.

 

[Silver Silva]

Tillakaratne Dilshan

 

[Ali TT]

Steve Waugh

I remember posting elsewhere that his bowling stats until his back injuries built up were remarkably similar to Hammond's.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Steve Waugh

I remember posting elsewhere that his bowling stats until his back injuries built up were remarkably similar to Hammond's.

Waugh was up with Brian McMillan as the best allrounder of the early 90s.

Martin Crowe was actually a decent bowler when he was young too, before back problems. I think he might've even opened the bowling in Pakistan

 

[Molehill]

Craig was essentially in an unusual category of player where he was initially picked for his bowling, but, a couple of matches aside, became more useful with his batting. Vettori sort of fits this too but over a much longer period. I'm ignoring players like Steve Smith who were always going to mostly be batsmen and were selected for their bowling due to desperation.

Probably a whole different thread - players who excelled in the discipline they were not originally selected for. KP is another who would fit into this category.

 

[kevinw]

Probably a whole different thread - players who excelled in the discipline they were not originally selected for. KP is another who would fit into this category.

Mark Richardson was a SLA bowler who became an opener who made Dom Sibley look like a slogger.

 

[reyrey]

Tillakaratne Dilshan

vs Aravinda de Silva. Who was the better bowler?

 

[Migara]

vs Aravinda de Silva. Who was the better bowler?

Oh Aravinda all the way. The subtle variations he had was a joy to watch. Should have bowled a lot more in tests. Was definietly better tgan tripe like Ranjith Madurasinha or Asoka de Silva who were main spinners some times.

 

[Jane Austen]

Basil Butcher-------44 Tests,batting average 43.11,bowling average 18 with 1 five-for.AND he bowled leg-spin (but no googly!!)
His captain,who was also a competent all-rounder, made an infamous declaration based on the new-found all-round bowling brilliance of this world-class batter.

 

[turnstyle]

Darren Lehmann is up there. Was very handy with the ball in one day cricket. Averaged 27 at less than 5 an over. Also wasn't bad in the few tests he got to play and had a decent FC record too.