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Which batsmen were most successful against Marshall, Hadlee and McGrath?

shortpitched713

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Why do you harp on that series and not the notorious 1990 series where Wasim and Waqar were accused of tampering but Imran didn’t play? Or the footage of the 1992 England series?
All of these series (including 1982), represent meaningless hearsay from sour grapes opponents and opposing media. No one was sanctioned.

If someone doesn't want to accept the results, they can keep that bitterness to themselves.
 
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subshakerz

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All of these series (including 1982), represent meaningless hearsay from sour grapes opponents and opposing media. No one was sanctioned.

If someone doesn't want to accept the results, they can keep that bitterness to themselves.
No point denying ball tampering happened. It was widespread.

The question is why Kyear only holds Imran to account for it.
 

shortpitched713

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No point denying ball tampering happened. It was widespread.

The question is why Kyear only holds Imran to account for it.
Yes it existed, it was widespread on a continuum. It is true that some people were even caught for it, but this happened much less before the prevalence of 1 million camera angles.

There is absolutely no reason or evidence other than racialist, or other type of bias to say Pakistan players are the main guilty parties historically. Large majority of players caught over the years were not Pakistani.
 

subshakerz

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Yes it existed, it was widespread on a continuum. It is true that some people were even caught for it, but this happened much less before the prevalence of 1 million camera angles.

There is absolutely no reason or evidence other than racialist, or other type of bias to say Pakistan players are the main guilty parties historically. Large majority of players caught over the years were not Pakistani.
I don’t disagree except for saying anyone who thinks Pakistan is the main party may be racist, because so many are uninformed of the level of tampering that was widespread before it got scrutiny.
 

shortpitched713

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I don’t disagree except for saying anyone who thinks Pakistan is the main party may be racist, because so many are uninformed of the level of tampering that was widespread before it got scrutiny.
If you're unwilling to do a simple Google search before believeing the worst about only one specific group of people, then yes you carry some sort of implicit internal bias.
 

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I don’t disagree except for saying anyone who thinks Pakistan is the main party may be racist, because so many are uninformed of the level of tampering that was widespread before it got scrutiny.
Maybe people are mad that the Pakistani bowlers seemed to get the most/best out of it.
 

subshakerz

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Maybe people are mad that the Pakistani bowlers seemed to get the most/best out of it.
That’s what former umpire John Holder said after he caught Phil Tufnell ball tampering, approached captain Gooch about it who shrugged it off, only for Holder to see Gooch during the 1992 series against Pakistan wanting to see the ball handled by the Pakistanis during a break, Holder said Gooch was a hypocrite who only cared about tampering because the Pakistanis were good at it.
 

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