Top 100 Test Batsmen countdown (revised and updated)

[Days of Grace]

We’re also taking about small slices of a player’s career, not significant chunks. In any case, the system is designed so that players such as Weekes and Walcott are not swallowed up by Chanderpaul and Cook who played many more tests but were worse batsmen in terms of quality.

 

[howitzer]

We’re also taking about small slices of a player’s career, not significant chunks. In any case, the system is designed so that players such as Weekes and Walcott are not swallowed up by Chanderpaul and Cook who played many more tests but were worse batsmen in terms of quality.

Yeah some people seem to be advocating a system that would put Chanderpaul dangerously close to the top ten. I'd probably stop taking the exercise so seriously at that point.

 

[Johan]

Yeah some people seem to be advocating a system that would put Chanderpaul dangerously close to the top ten. I'd probably stop taking the exercise so seriously at that point.

Why do you hate Chanderpaul

 

[Prince EWS]

The biggest (and it's fair) criticism of Chanderpaul is that he played for his statistics, sometimes to the detriment of his value of the team. Any statistical-only analysis will inevitably overrate him given he was going for that - it shouldn't be held against the metrics used.

 

[howitzer]

		Runs	Years	Ave.	Adj. Ave.	RPI	Adj. RPI	S/R	Adj. S/R	Rating
176​	Shakib Al Hasan	4609​	18​	37.78​	36.14​	35.45​	34.38​	61.68​	54.19​	607​
187​	BA Stokes	7216​	14​	34.69​	35.92​	33.41​	34.59​	58.44​	50.92​	602​
218​	Imran Khan	3807​	22​	37.69​	35.70​	30.21​	28.62​	48.66​	48.63​	589​
219​	RA Jadeja	4095​	14​	38.27​	37.82​	30.79​	30.43​	55.42​	47.96​	589​
235​	IT Botham	5200​	16​	33.55​	33.89​	32.30​	32.63​	60.71​	61.32​	582​
266​	KR Miller	2958​	11​	36.98​	35.64​	34.00​	32.77​	43.35​	49.55​	563​
293​	N Kapil Dev	5248​	17​	31.05​	29.49​	28.52​	27.08​	79.58​	78.23​	546​
339​	SM Pollock	3781​	14​	32.32​	32.04​	24.24​	24.03​	52.53​	50.22​	517​
447​	Sir RJ Hadlee	3124​	18​	27.17​	26.55​	23.31​	22.78​	56.38​	57.03​	468​

Is this the order in which you would personally rank them?

Miller loses quite a few points in comparison to the others due to his relatively short career. Despite his reputation for being an entertainer and for not taking cricket as seriously as some of his teammates who didn't experience direct combat during WWII, his strike-rate is a mere 43 (adjusted to 49).

Just one more request please DoG. Can I see how the ever forgotten Trevor Goddard compares to the players here please?

 

[centurymaker]

Yeah some people seem to be advocating a system that would put Chanderpaul dangerously close to the top ten. I'd probably stop taking the exercise so seriously at that point.

No, increasing the weight to even 20% would still comfortably keep him away from the top 10.

 

[Coronis]

Yeah some people seem to be advocating a system that would put Chanderpaul dangerously close to the top ten. I'd probably stop taking the exercise so seriously at that point.

Chanderpaul deserves top 10 imo.

 

[howitzer]

Why do you hate Chanderpaul

I don't hate him as such. He still pretty much always makes my personal top 50 bats of all-time and, on a good day might make my top 40. PEWS has stated a lot of the reason that I can't really have him any higher than that, though. I don't think the ranking of him in this exercise is too horrendous, mind.

I actually quite liked Chanderpaul until about the late noughties and don't think he consciously red inked much before then. It just so happens that the period he did consciously red ink was also the period he boosted his average to make himself look like an ATG. Also by consciously red-inking, I watched a lot of Chanderpaul around that period and he looked to be actively giving some very weak tailenders more of the strike than he himself was receiving i.e. looking after his own overall numbers rather than trying to get as much runs as possible for the team in the moment.

Picture this; You're a West Indies cricket fan in the late noughties. You're bowling has been down for a few years since the retirements of Ambrose and Walsh and you've just lost your great hero in Brian Lara. It's a struggle, but you still have the experienced Chanderpaul. You think me might properly step into that breach, climb a position or two in the order or else, attempt to become that proactive force that your team so desperately needs. Instead, he does none of that and just bats for his average without any real concern for his own team's fortunes. It can't have been nice for his team-mates either, knowing that their best player was indulging in this self-absorbed behaviour. I think this is why the likes of @kyear2 have so much disdain for him, and I honestly can't really dispute it.

 

[ataraxia]

Thanks for that. You have to remember though that my formula is based on benchmarks, or "gold standards", as in a player's values divided by each benchmark.

For example, the benchmark for career length is 25 years. If Player A played for 15 years, he would get 0.6 (15/25). The benchmark for runs is 13,000. So if Player A scored 12,000 runs, they would get 0.92 (12,000/13,000). Career points are equally weighted by years and runs. So for the aforementioned player A, they would score 0.76 for career: (0.6+0.92)/2.

Averages, Runs per innings, and strike-rates all have different benchmarks. So I don't think it is as simple as a player averaging 43 over 20 years being rated about the same as one averaging 50 over 10 years, as you wrote.

I naively calculated that 20/25 * 0.225 + 43/60 * 0.775 is roughly equal to 10/25 * 0.225 + 50/60 * 0.775. I'm not a fan of RPI or SR as measures either, so I chose to simplify things by just looking at average.

 

[centurymaker]

Cook came in at 68th. A solid opener in the swinging Dukes ball era and one who also played a massive role in winning the Ashes in Aus in 2010/11 as well as a series in India in 2012. Meanwhile, Labuschagne finished 60th (career avg 44.70). It's down to undervaluation of longevity. Players with shorter careers are a bit too high.

Also, players who choose to retire at peak are being rated higher. Suppose a player can retire after point A or point B.

Point A: 12 years avg 58
Point B: 12 years avg 58 + 3 more years avg 46

This player would have a better rating if they retired after point A than if they retired after point B. But this player would've done no wrong by playing another 3 years and continuing to perform.

 

[DrWolverine]

Point A: 12 years avg 58
Point B: 12 years avg 58 + 3 more years avg 46

One example


1978-1982
Maco : 12 Tests. 34 wickets @ 35 & SR of 65
Hadlee : 21 Tests. 108 wickets @ 21 & SR of 55

1983-1991
Maco : 69 Tests. 342 wkts @ 19.85 and SR of 44.
Hadlee : 48 Tests. 262 wkts @ 19.64and SR of 48

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Chanderpaul deserves top 1

Agree

 

[Days of Grace]

I think this chart will help explain more about how batsmen ended up where they did.

		Career points (x125)	Career ranking	Overall points (x500)	Overall ranking	Peak points (x125)	Peak ranking	Non-home points (x125)	Non-home ranking	Top opposition points (x125)	Top opposition ranking	Overall rating
1​	DG Bradman	0.69​	22​	1.43​	1​	1.41​	1​	1.37​	1​	1.34​	1​	1317​
2​	JB Hobbs	0.67​	28​	0.92​	2​	0.99​	4​	1.01​	3​	0.87​	11​	900​
3​	GS Sobers	0.73​	18​	0.90​	4​	1.01​	3​	0.83​	10​	0.87​	9​	880​
4​	L Hutton	0.65​	33​	0.86​	12​	0.96​	6​	0.90​	6​	1.05​	2​	874​
5​	SPD Smith	0.73​	15​	0.87​	9​	0.96​	7​	0.85​	8​	0.90​	7​	864​
6​	BC Lara	0.80​	9​	0.88​	7​	0.88​	13​	0.82​	13​	0.87​	10​	860​
7​	SR Tendulkar	1.11​	1​	0.81​	21​	0.92​	8​	0.82​	14​	0.77​	38​	858​
8​	GA Headley	0.58​	46​	0.90​	3​	0.86​	17​	0.76​	32​	1.02​	3​	855​
9​	JE Root	0.84​	6​	0.85​	13​	0.83​	29​	0.79​	23​	0.87​	8​	844​
10​	KF Barrington	0.54​	60​	0.88​	8​	0.88​	12​	0.97​	4​	0.79​	32​	836​
11​	IVA Richards	0.69​	24​	0.82​	19​	1.05​	2​	0.83​	12​	0.82​	23​	832​
12​	KC Sangakkara	0.80​	10​	0.84​	16​	0.84​	22​	0.81​	16​	0.79​	29​	823​
13​	H Sutcliffe	0.42​	78​	0.86​	11​	0.83​	26​	0.86​	7​	0.97​	4​	814​
14​	WR Hammond	0.70​	20​	0.81​	23​	0.83​	34​	0.92​	5​	0.79​	30​	809​
15​	ED Weekes	0.39​	86​	0.89​	5​	0.91​	9​	0.78​	29​	0.76​	43​	803​
16​	HC Brook	0.22​	98​	0.88​	6​	0.80​	47​	1.03​	2​	0.79​	31​	797​
17​	JH Kallis	0.89​	3​	0.79​	26​	0.85​	18​	0.75​	41​	0.72​	67​	797​
18​	AR Border	0.77​	11​	0.78​	35​	0.83​	28​	0.84​	9​	0.82​	21​	796​
19​	GS Chappell	0.57​	50​	0.83​	17​	0.81​	40​	0.79​	21​	0.83​	18​	790​
20​	KS Williamson	0.68​	25​	0.84​	15​	0.87​	15​	0.69​	63​	0.72​	69​	789​
21​	SM Gavaskar	0.73​	17​	0.79​	27​	0.79​	48​	0.80​	18​	0.82​	22​	787​
22​	CL Walcott	0.41​	80​	0.87​	10​	0.98​	5​	0.60​	92​	0.84​	17​	786​
23​	R Dravid	0.85​	5​	0.77​	37​	0.83​	31​	0.78​	30​	0.71​	73​	782​
24​	S Chanderpaul	0.90​	2​	0.76​	48​	0.83​	30​	0.70​	60​	0.77​	39​	780​
25​	SR Waugh	0.82​	7​	0.77​	42​	0.83​	32​	0.83​	11​	0.69​	83​	779​
26​	Inzamam-ul-Haq	0.66​	29​	0.78​	29​	0.84​	21​	0.76​	33​	0.82​	20​	777​
27​	RT Ponting	0.87​	4​	0.76​	44​	0.88​	11​	0.71​	50​	0.69​	78​	777​
28​	Younis Khan	0.75​	13​	0.77​	38​	0.78​	54​	0.76​	38​	0.85​	14​	776​
29​	AD Nourse	0.45​	75​	0.82​	18​	0.89​	10​	0.66​	78​	0.86​	12​	769​
30​	RN Harvey	0.56​	55​	0.81​	22​	0.84​	23​	0.80​	19​	0.69​	84​	764​
31​	AB de Villiers	0.64​	36​	0.77​	40​	0.84​	25​	0.79​	20​	0.77​	42​	763​
32​	RB Kanhai	0.60​	43​	0.77​	36​	0.83​	27​	0.79​	26​	0.76​	44​	760​
33​	DCS Compton	0.64​	35​	0.80​	25​	0.85​	20​	0.62​	89​	0.77​	41​	759​
34​	RG Pollock	0.25​	96​	0.84​	14​	0.82​	35​	0.66​	74​	0.96​	5​	758​
35​	Javed Miandad	0.70​	19​	0.78​	34​	0.80​	45​	0.71​	49​	0.71​	72​	757​
36​	FMM Worrell	0.47​	72​	0.80​	24​	0.78​	53​	0.79​	24​	0.78​	34​	754​
37​	RB Simpson	0.63​	37​	0.77​	41​	0.87​	16​	0.70​	55​	0.75​	55​	751​
38​	V Kohli	0.66​	31​	0.76​	45​	0.85​	19​	0.71​	51​	0.74​	61​	750​
39​	PBH May	0.39​	84​	0.82​	20​	0.82​	38​	0.67​	69​	0.84​	16​	750​
40​	V Sehwag	0.59​	45​	0.78​	30​	0.78​	55​	0.71​	53​	0.75​	51​	745​
41​	Mohammad Yousuf	0.55​	57​	0.78​	32​	0.83​	33​	0.72​	47​	0.73​	65​	745​
42​	ML Hayden	0.64​	34​	0.76​	49​	0.82​	37​	0.68​	67​	0.74​	60​	740​
43​	CH Lloyd	0.69​	23​	0.75​	57​	0.74​	68​	0.75​	39​	0.74​	59​	739​
44​	A Flower	0.40​	81​	0.78​	28​	0.81​	43​	0.76​	34​	0.80​	28​	739​
45​	G Boycott	0.69​	21​	0.73​	66​	0.84​	24​	0.70​	57​	0.75​	52​	736​
46​	DPMD Jayawardene	0.81​	8​	0.74​	59​	0.76​	62​	0.60​	96​	0.73​	63​	735​
47​	GA Gooch	0.76​	12​	0.72​	75​	0.77​	61​	0.65​	81​	0.80​	27​	730​
48​	C Hill	0.47​	70​	0.77​	43​	0.87​	14​	0.70​	56​	0.73​	66​	729​
49​	B Mitchell	0.55​	56​	0.75​	56​	0.73​	70​	0.76​	31​	0.75​	49​	725​
50​	MC Cowdrey	0.73​	16​	0.72​	73​	0.75​	64​	0.75​	42​	0.68​	87​	721​
51​	GA Faulkner	0.47​	73​	0.74​	63​	0.78​	57​	0.73​	45​	0.80​	25​	717​
52​	KD Walters	0.55​	59​	0.76​	51​	0.80​	46​	0.65​	82​	0.70​	77​	716​
53​	HW Taylor	0.53​	62​	0.76​	47​	0.78​	56​	0.57​	100​	0.78​	37​	712​
54​	HM Amla	0.68​	27​	0.70​	84​	0.81​	41​	0.68​	65​	0.71​	74​	712​
55​	Saeed Anwar	0.40​	83​	0.76​	54​	0.72​	77​	0.76​	36​	0.77​	40​	709​
56​	DI Gower	0.62​	40​	0.72​	71​	0.67​	96​	0.76​	37​	0.73​	62​	707​
57​	SJ McCabe	0.29​	94​	0.74​	62​	0.80​	44​	0.78​	28​	0.81​	24​	705​
58​	YBK Jaiswal	0.16​	99​	0.78​	33​	0.72​	78​	0.69​	61​	0.91​	6​	701​
59​	GC Smith	0.62​	41​	0.71​	79​	0.67​	99​	0.79​	22​	0.68​	86​	700​
60​	M Labuschagne	0.36​	88​	0.76​	50​	0.79​	50​	0.62​	88​	0.78​	33​	699​
61​	WM Lawry	0.42​	77​	0.76​	52​	0.71​	84​	0.66​	73​	0.76​	45​	699​
62​	ER Dexter	0.39​	85​	0.74​	61​	0.70​	86​	0.79​	25​	0.73​	64​	697​
63​	RR Pant	0.29​	93​	0.77​	39​	0.73​	71​	0.73​	46​	0.75​	56​	697​
64​	AD Mathews	0.66​	30​	0.70​	86​	0.71​	85​	0.69​	62​	0.72​	70​	696​
65​	TM Head	0.36​	89​	0.78​	31​	0.73​	75​	0.60​	94​	0.75​	50​	696​
66​	AC Gilchrist	0.41​	79​	0.74​	60​	0.74​	65​	0.78​	27​	0.65​	92​	696​
67​	VT Trumper	0.40​	82​	0.76​	53​	0.78​	51​	0.65​	84​	0.69​	80​	694​
68​	AN Cook	0.74​	14​	0.69​	94​	0.67​	97​	0.70​	59​	0.69​	79​	694​
69​	Hanif Mohammad	0.51​	66​	0.71​	78​	0.77​	60​	0.66​	72​	0.76​	48​	694​
70​	KP Pietersen	0.51​	65​	0.74​	64​	0.67​	98​	0.65​	83​	0.75​	54​	691​
71​	PA de Silva	0.62​	38​	0.69​	93​	0.79​	49​	0.60​	95​	0.74​	58​	690​
72​	DA Warner	0.62​	39​	0.73​	68​	0.72​	76​	0.58​	99​	0.69​	82​	689​
73​	VVS Laxman	0.68​	26​	0.69​	91​	0.74​	69​	0.65​	80​	0.66​	89​	689​
74​	MJ Clarke	0.57​	51​	0.73​	67​	0.72​	80​	0.60​	91​	0.71​	76​	688​
75​	Babar Azam	0.37​	87​	0.72​	70​	0.81​	42​	0.66​	79​	0.78​	35​	688​
76​	NCL O'Neill	0.27​	95​	0.75​	55​	0.74​	66​	0.71​	54​	0.78​	36​	688​
77​	TW Graveney	0.57​	52​	0.71​	82​	0.77​	58​	0.64​	86​	0.68​	85​	686​
78​	Saleem Malik	0.58​	47​	0.67​	99​	0.78​	52​	0.60​	93​	0.84​	15​	685​
79​	MD Crowe	0.49​	67​	0.70​	87​	0.77​	59​	0.66​	77​	0.76​	47​	684​
80​	CG Greenidge	0.65​	32​	0.70​	89​	0.73​	74​	0.66​	76​	0.65​	93​	684​
81​	PR Umrigar	0.44​	76​	0.72​	72​	0.74​	67​	0.75​	43​	0.66​	90​	682​
82​	VS Hazare	0.24​	97​	0.75​	58​	0.82​	36​	0.64​	85​	0.76​	46​	682​
83​	G Kirsten	0.52​	63​	0.70​	88​	0.69​	92​	0.74​	44​	0.71​	75​	681​
84​	GP Thorpe	0.52​	64​	0.71​	77​	0.69​	90​	0.70​	58​	0.69​	81​	681​
85​	JL Langer	0.60​	44​	0.71​	80​	0.70​	89​	0.66​	75​	0.64​	95​	679​
86​	RB Richardson	0.49​	68​	0.71​	76​	0.72​	82​	0.63​	87​	0.74​	57​	679​
87​	ME Waugh	0.55​	58​	0.69​	95​	0.66​	100​	0.67​	71​	0.80​	26​	678​
88​	M Azharuddin	0.58​	48​	0.71​	81​	0.69​	91​	0.58​	98​	0.72​	68​	676​
89​	DR Martyn	0.47​	71​	0.72​	74​	0.72​	79​	0.72​	48​	0.63​	98​	674​
90​	CG Macartney	0.48​	69​	0.67​	98​	0.72​	83​	0.75​	40​	0.75​	53​	673​
91​	UT Khawaja	0.56​	53​	0.69​	92​	0.73​	72​	0.67​	68​	0.63​	96​	671​
92​	Misbah-ul-Haq	0.54​	61​	0.68​	96​	0.70​	87​	0.71​	52​	0.71​	71​	671​
93​	CC McDonald	0.32​	91​	0.73​	65​	0.73​	73​	0.59​	97​	0.82​	19​	671​
94​	CA Pujara	0.56​	54​	0.70​	85​	0.72​	81​	0.61​	90​	0.66​	91​	668​
95​	PHKD Mendis	0.13​	100​	0.76​	46​	0.81​	39​	0.80​	17​	0.55​	100​	668​
96​	SM Nurse	0.30​	92​	0.73​	69​	0.70​	88​	0.81​	15​	0.63​	97​	668​
97​	AJ Stewart	0.61​	42​	0.68​	97​	0.69​	93​	0.67​	70​	0.67​	88​	667​
98​	CH Gayle	0.58​	49​	0.67​	100​	0.76​	63​	0.69​	64​	0.65​	94​	666​
99​	M Leyland	0.33​	90​	0.70​	90​	0.67​	95​	0.68​	66​	0.86​	13​	665​
100​	EH Hendren	0.46​	74​	0.70​	83​	0.68​	94​	0.76​	35​	0.60​	99​	663​

 

[Days of Grace]

@Days of Grace , I have a small query .

why hasn’t Garry Sober's adjusted average dropped much? Wasn’t his era generally considered quite batting friendly with flatter pitches?
But then players from the 2000s like Ponting, Jacques Kallis, and Kumar Sangakkara all show noticeable drops after adjustment.

Because of the quality of opposition that he played. 55 of his 93 matches were against either Australia and England and the average RPW of his opponents was 32.46 and the average RPW of the matches he played in was 34.50.

Average opposition RPW:
Ponting: 34.72
Kallis: 34.49
Sangakkara: 35.62

Average match RPW:
Ponting: 34.62
Kallis: 33.58
Sangakkara: 34.47

That doesn't tell the whole story, though. A batsman's final adjusted average is mostly determined by when they scored runs, i.e. against which opposition and in which match conditions.

 

[Days of Grace]

Desmond Haynes didn't make it to the top-100?

Numbers 101-125 (just missing the cut)

		Career points (x125)	Overall points (x500)	Peak points (x125)	Non-home points (x125)	Top opposition points (x125)	Overall rating
101​	DB Vengsarkar	0.60​	0.66​	0.83​	0.54​	0.67​	660​
102​	JH Edrich	0.48​	0.68​	0.70​	0.65​	0.71​	660​
103​	MEK Hussey	0.42​	0.73​	0.65​	0.60​	0.69​	660​
104​	AR Morris	0.34​	0.70​	0.67​	0.74​	0.73​	659​
105​	DJ McGlew	0.33​	0.72​	0.71​	0.71​	0.66​	659​
106​	EJ Barlow	0.30​	0.69​	0.69​	0.77​	0.73​	658​
107​	CC Hunte	0.32​	0.70​	0.70​	0.63​	0.82​	658​
108​	Zaheer Abbas	0.53​	0.69​	0.76​	0.62​	0.59​	657​
109​	LD Chandimal	0.54​	0.69​	0.67​	0.64​	0.66​	657​
110​	DJ Mitchell	0.22​	0.70​	0.66​	0.75​	0.82​	656​
111​	LRPL Taylor	0.62​	0.68​	0.67​	0.61​	0.63​	655​
112​	M Amarnath	0.57​	0.64​	0.72​	0.80​	0.59​	655​
113​	GR Viswanath	0.53​	0.67​	0.71​	0.61​	0.70​	654​
114​	DL Haynes	0.63​	0.67​	0.67​	0.55​	0.70​	652​
115​	WH Ponsford	0.30​	0.69​	0.65​	0.78​	0.74​	651​
116​	IM Chappell	0.55​	0.67​	0.68​	0.67​	0.63​	651​
117​	IR Redpath	0.44​	0.69​	0.67​	0.67​	0.68​	651​
118​	B Sutcliffe	0.48​	0.67​	0.69​	0.67​	0.69​	651​
119​	BF Butcher	0.36​	0.69​	0.65​	0.74​	0.68​	649​
120​	ST Jayasuriya	0.61​	0.65​	0.70​	0.61​	0.68​	649​
121​	AL Hassett	0.44​	0.69​	0.73​	0.60​	0.67​	649​
122​	WW Armstrong	0.53​	0.69​	0.68​	0.59​	0.64​	648​
123​	DC Boon	0.55​	0.67​	0.67​	0.61​	0.67​	645​
124​	TT Samaraweera	0.47​	0.68​	0.76​	0.60​	0.61​	643​
125​	KC Bland	0.18​	0.68​	0.66​	0.76​	0.80​	642​

 

[Days of Grace]

@Days of Grace - would Viv's ranking have changed at all if he had retired on Feb 28, 1989 (immediately after his series in Aus in 1988-89), couple of years before he actually retired?

848, which would move him to 9th above Root and Barrington.

 

[ataraxia]

Numbers 101-125 (just missing the cut)

		Career points (x125)	Overall points (x500)	Peak points (x125)	Non-home points (x125)	Top opposition points (x125)	Overall rating
101​	DB Vengsarkar	0.60​	0.66​	0.83​	0.54​	0.67​	660​
102​	JH Edrich	0.48​	0.68​	0.70​	0.65​	0.71​	660​
103​	MEK Hussey	0.42​	0.73​	0.65​	0.60​	0.69​	660​
104​	AR Morris	0.34​	0.70​	0.67​	0.74​	0.73​	659​
105​	DJ McGlew	0.33​	0.72​	0.71​	0.71​	0.66​	659​
106​	EJ Barlow	0.30​	0.69​	0.69​	0.77​	0.73​	658​
107​	CC Hunte	0.32​	0.70​	0.70​	0.63​	0.82​	658​
108​	Zaheer Abbas	0.53​	0.69​	0.76​	0.62​	0.59​	657​
109​	LD Chandimal	0.54​	0.69​	0.67​	0.64​	0.66​	657​
110​	DJ Mitchell	0.22​	0.70​	0.66​	0.75​	0.82​	656​
111​	LRPL Taylor	0.62​	0.68​	0.67​	0.61​	0.63​	655​
112​	M Amarnath	0.57​	0.64​	0.72​	0.80​	0.59​	655​
113​	GR Viswanath	0.53​	0.67​	0.71​	0.61​	0.70​	654​
114​	DL Haynes	0.63​	0.67​	0.67​	0.55​	0.70​	652​
115​	WH Ponsford	0.30​	0.69​	0.65​	0.78​	0.74​	651​
116​	IM Chappell	0.55​	0.67​	0.68​	0.67​	0.63​	651​
117​	IR Redpath	0.44​	0.69​	0.67​	0.67​	0.68​	651​
118​	B Sutcliffe	0.48​	0.67​	0.69​	0.67​	0.69​	651​
119​	BF Butcher	0.36​	0.69​	0.65​	0.74​	0.68​	649​
120​	ST Jayasuriya	0.61​	0.65​	0.70​	0.61​	0.68​	649​
121​	AL Hassett	0.44​	0.69​	0.73​	0.60​	0.67​	649​
122​	WW Armstrong	0.53​	0.69​	0.68​	0.59​	0.64​	648​
123​	DC Boon	0.55​	0.67​	0.67​	0.61​	0.67​	645​
124​	TT Samaraweera	0.47​	0.68​	0.76​	0.60​	0.61​	643​
125​	KC Bland	0.18​	0.68​	0.66​	0.76​	0.80​	642​

Wow Mitchell beating Taylor is crazy. (And I'm not talking about the pre-WWII South Africans.)

 

[Days of Grace]

HC asking DoG to apply the principles of open research to his ranking list was not something I was expecting.

Lol @ the idea of applying the principals of open research to an intellectual work that is still being developed and has not been published yet. I will kindly share the general formula but I'm not going to go into minute detail for someone to just use in a university paper and get credit for it.

Which leads me to asking some of the more knowledgeable posters on this forum, what would be the best way of publishing this and getting copyright?

 

[peterhrt]

what would be the best way of publishing this and getting copyright?

As author you already own the copyright. To confirm, a single line as below inside the front cover would suffice. But with your real name instead of the one used on the forum. You would have to remove the photographs as their copyright would be owned by others - unless you sought their permission.

© 2026 Days of Grace. All Rights Reserved.

I am no expert but an eBook may be the easiest way to go these days. They also often make more profit for authors and publishers. Some links below.

Narrative still sells books. A short explanation of each player's rating (or at least the leading ones) would give reviewers more to talk about.

Good luck!

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[Prince EWS]

As author you already own the copyright. To confirm, a single line as below inside the front cover would suffice. But with your real name instead of the one used on the forum. You would have to remove the photographs as their copyright would be owned by others - unless you sought their permission.

© 2026 Days of Grace. All Rights Reserved.

I am no expert but an eBook may be the easiest way to go these days. They also often make more profit for authors and publishers. Some links below.

Narrative still sells books. A short explanation of each player's rating (or at least the leading ones) would give reviewers more to talk about.

Good luck!

Self-Publish Your eBook - #1 EBook Publishers in New Zealand
Self publishing for Amazon, print on demand, ebooks — Auckland, NZ - Self-Publishing NZ
Self Publishing | Amazon Kindle Direct Publishing

Maybe I should update the standardised average and do this as well.

Tagging @Coronis and @ataraxia to get them needlessly excited about something I probably won't have time for.