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Rishabh Pant Appreciation Society

CodeOfWisden

State Vice-Captain
Ian Healy and Rod Marsh won’t get to play more than half a dozen games in this era. Some people have the nerve to call them ATGs.

I mean ATG in what? Standing behind the wkts and catching a ball? Lol
 

Johan

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Ian Healy and Rod Marsh won’t get to play more than half a dozen games in this era. Some people have the nerve to call them ATGs.

I mean ATG in what? Standing behind the wkts and catching a ball? Lol
This is getting pathetic, actually, this is pathetic dude.
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
Ian Healy and Rod Marsh won’t get to play more than half a dozen games in this era. Some people have the nerve to call them ATGs.

I mean ATG in what? Standing behind the wkts and catching a ball? Lol
So simple question.

How many drops are justifiable in the search for the ebst batsman to stand behind the stumps?

Missed stumpings, or just missed opportunities because they can't stand up to the quicker guys?
 

CodeOfWisden

State Vice-Captain
So simple question.

How many drops are justifiable in the search for the ebst batsman to stand behind the stumps?

Missed stumpings, or just missed opportunities because they can't stand up to the quicker guys?
The only full time keeper whose keeping actually had a big negative impact on his side was Kamran Akmal.

Apart from him, keepers have usually been tidy. An extra catch or saving half a dozen byes is not really a substitute for actual batting prowess.

Not to mention that even the best wk do drop chances on bad days.
 

CodeOfWisden

State Vice-Captain
This is getting pathetic, actually, this is pathetic dude.
Challenging the idiotic conventions of the past always looks pathetic to blind worshippers.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with what I said, Rod Marsh and Healy average 26,27 respectively. They definitely won’t play more than half a dozen matches in this era.
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
The only full time keeper whose keeping actually had a big negative impact on his side was Kamran Akmal.

Apart from him, keepers have usually been tidy. An extra catch or saving half a dozen byes is not really a substitute for actual batting prowess.

Not to mention that even the best wk do drop chances on bad days.
We had successive wicketkeepers who had a negative impact on our team and cost us matches and series.

Forcing Alec Stewart to keep over Jack hurt england in every way possible. It made them a worse team.
 

CodeOfWisden

State Vice-Captain
Even Bangladesh has Litton Das who averages 35 and is a decent keeper.

He is better than Rod Marsh and Ian Healy, Imagine Healy playing for Aus while a superior batsman is representing Bangladesh.
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
Challenging the idiotic conventions of the past always looks pathetic to blind worshippers.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with what I said, Rod Marsh and Healy average 26,27 respectively. They definitely won’t play more than half a dozen matches in this era.
What Knott was able to do daily to.Underwood, not a keeper today is capable of. And he could more than bat good enough.

There's literally no scenario where I wiuld.selct Pant ober Alan Knott.
 

CodeOfWisden

State Vice-Captain
We had successive wicketkeepers who had a negative impact on our team and cost us matches and series.

Forcing Alec Stewart to keep over Jack hurt england in every way possible. It made them a worse team.
That wasn’t a good call but this has nothing to do with what I am saying.
My point is simple, if you have two keepers who are both decent than you pick the one who has batting potential.
 

CodeOfWisden

State Vice-Captain
What Knott was able to do daily to.Underwood, not a keeper today is capable of. And he could more than bat good enough.

There's literally no scenario where I wiuld.selct Pant ober Alan Knott.
Thats the reason I am not discussing Knott here. He was good with the bat too.

But if I had to choose one player between Pant and Knott, I would chose Pant anyday. Knott won’t win me a test series in Aus by taking catches.
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
That wasn’t a good call but this has nothing to do with what I am saying.
My point is simple, if you have two keepers who are both decent than you pick the one who has batting potential.
Alec was decent and had batting potential..

Which is your solution.

But they down graded the keeping and then his batting also suffered.
 

Johan

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Challenging the idiotic conventions of the past always looks pathetic to blind worshippers.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with what I said, Rod Marsh and Healy average 26,27 respectively. They definitely won’t play more than half a dozen matches in this era.
Healy would play a hundred Tests today.
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
Thats the reason I am not discussing Knott here. He was good with the bat too.

But if I had to choose one player between Pant and Knott, I would chose Pant anyday. Knott won’t win me a test series in Aus by taking catches.
He literally can.

I've seen tests won and lost over slip catches far less keeper ones.
 

CodeOfWisden

State Vice-Captain
Do you even watch cricket?
I do.
You are deluding yourself if you think that modern international teams are going to pick a great keeper over a decent one with batting potential.

Take the example of Jamie Smith over Foakes, let alone Jamie Eng even chose Bairstow and Buttler over Foakes.
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
I do.
You are deluding yourself if you think that modern international teams are going to pick a great keeper over a decent one with batting potential.

Take the example of Jamie Smith over Foakes, let alone Jamie Eng even chose Bairstow and Buttler over Foakes.
And ended in disasters.
 

Abhay423

State Vice-Captain
He literally can.

I've seen tests won and lost over slip catches far less keeper ones.
Not to mention the positioning of wicket keeper sets the standard for slips on where to stand. If keeper is too far or too close, it affects the output of cordon. Like Rizwan has been standing too deep in recent test and that has lead to chances dropping short.
 

CodeOfWisden

State Vice-Captain
And ended in disasters.
Jamie Smith is thrice the cricketer Foakes could ever be.

There is a reason England prefers him.

I have seen enough of Foakes’ brilliant keeping to decide that its usually a non factor towards the team’s performance.
 

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