Greatest Players Who Never Won a World Cup Final

[manoftommorow]

South Africa

Hashim Amla
Graeme Smith
Herschelle Gibbs
Jacques Kallis
AB de Villiers (C)(WK)
JP Duminy For me David Miller
Lance Klusener
Shaun Pollock
Dale Steyn
Imran Tahir
Allan Donald

 

[capt_Luffy]

A 21st century AUS ODI XI that never won a WC :

1.Shaun Marsh
2.Usman Khawaja
3.David Hussey
4.Adam Voges
5.Cameron White
6.Peter Handscomb (WK)
7.John Hastings
8.Nathan Coulter-Nile
9.Ryan Harris
10.Doug Bollinger
11.Nathan Hauritz

Hauritz was in 2003 Squad.

I would swap out Handscomb for Wade to get a proper keeper, Hastings for James Hope, Bollinger for Clint MacKay and Hauritz for Ashton Agar.

 

[Silver Silva]

Great team, although instead of Patterson I'd rather pick a really big hitting allrounder as another finisher

Okay how about Andre Russell ?

Plus he can bowl 90mph and a world class fielder ..

But id keep Patterson instead of Bishop ..

His ODI record is very underrated , 90 wickets in just 59 matches at 24.51 which is better than Marshall and Bishop and he was rumored to being even more faster than them. An express pace speed demon.

 

[capt_Luffy]

South Africa

Hashim Amla
Graeme Smith
Herschelle Gibbs
Jacques Kallis
AB de Villiers (C)(WK)
JP Duminy
Lance Klusener
Shaun Pollock
Dale Steyn
Imran Tahir
Allan Donald

Love how a SA XI to not win the cup means just the SA XI.....

 

[Silver Silva]

Hauritz was in 2003 Squad.

I would swap out Handscomb for Wade to get a proper keeper, Hastings for James Hope, Bollinger for Clint MacKay and Hauritz for Ashton Agar.

Bollinger offers something different with his left arm angle, and he averaged 23.90 with the ball at good pace, John Hastings averaged 29 with the bat at SR 99 and took 42 wickets in 29 games at 29.90 which is much better than Hopes so id keep him , Wade i think is valid though , Agar averaged quite poorly with the ball but Aus dont use a lot of spin so he will have to do

 

[capt_Luffy]

Well, I have to do every one of these now:



India:

Rohit Sharma
Shikhar Dhawan
Sourav Ganguly*
Mohammad Azharuddin
Shreyas Iyer
KL Rahul+
Hardik Pandya
Anil Kumble
Mohammad Shami
Kuldeep Yadav
Jasprit Bumrah



West Indies:

Chris Gayle
Brian Lara
Shai Hope+
Garry Sobers*
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Carl Hooper
Andre Russell
Dwayne Bravo
Sunil Narine
Curtly Ambrose
Courtney Walsh



Pakistan:

Saeed Anwar
Fakar Zaman
Babar Azam
Zaheer Abbas
Mohammad Rizwan+
Imad Wasim
Shahid Afridi
Abdul Razzaq
Saqlain Mushtaq
Shoaib Akhtar
Waqar Younis



Sri Lanka:

Mahela Jayawardene*
Tillakratne Dilshan
Kumar Sangakkara+
Angelo Mathews
Charith Asalanka
Russell Arnold
Thisara Perera
Wanindu Hasaranga
Nuwan Kulashekhara
Ajantha Mendis
Lasith Malinga



England:

Marcus Trescothick
Alec Stewart+
Allan Lamb
Kevin Pietersen
Andrew Flintoff
Neil Fairbrother
Paul Collingwood*
Graeme Swann
Chris Old
Darren Gough
Bob Willis

 

[Silver Silva]

Bangladesh :

1.Tamim Iqbal
2.Liton Das
3.Shakib Al Hasan
4.Towhid Hridoy
5.Mushfiqur Rahim (WK)
6.Mahmudullah Riyadh
7.Mehidy Hasan Miraz
8.Rishad Hossain
9.Mashrafe Mortaza (C)
10.Taskin Ahmed
11.Mustafizur Rahman

 

[ataraxia]

England:

Marcus Trescothick
Alec Stewart+
Allan Lamb
Kevin Pietersen
Andrew Flintoff
Neil Fairbrother
Paul Collingwood*
Graeme Swann
Chris Old
Darren Gough
Bob Willis

Surely Bairstow, Root, Morgan, Buttler, etc. get in.

 

[Majestic]

Good really for me, at best low very good. Not really there with the bat for his bowling and fielding to push him to Great tier.

He was the player of series in ICC Champions Trophy and won the player of match in Finals 2000. Contributed with both bat and bowl and till date, it is the only ICC tournament win that South Africa have in their bag.

Additionally, he had a long career with 10k+ ODI runs @44 and 200+ wkts with bowl.

He is definitely a great cricketer. You could debate whether he is not better than ABD or Klusener or he is but definitely a great ODI cricketer.

 

[Silver Silva]

He was the player of series in ICC Champions Trophy and won the player of match in Finals 2000. Contributed with both bat and bowl and till date, it is the only ICC tournament win that South Africa have in their bag.

Additionally, he had a long career with 10k+ ODI runs @44 and 200+ wkts with bowl.

He is definitely a great cricketer. You could debate whether he is not better than ABD or Klusener or he is but definitely a great ODI cricketer.

I cant believe SA havent made a single ODI WC final with all their talent over the years

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I cant believe SA havent made a single ODI WC final with all their talent over the years

Don't tell that to the 11 South African women who played India a couple of days ago

 

[capt_Luffy]

He was the player of series in ICC Champions Trophy and won the player of match in Finals 2000. Contributed with both bat and bowl and till date, it is the only ICC tournament win that South Africa have in their bag.

Additionally, he had a long career with 10k+ ODI runs @44 and 200+ wkts with bowl.

He is definitely a great cricketer. You could debate whether he is not better than ABD or Klusener or he is but definitely a great ODI cricketer.

I think he was a bit too slow with the bat in ODIs to be considered a Great, and have him 68th in my ODI batter's list, but can see the argument. Not a comparison with Klusener or especially ABD though, that's vile.

 

[DrWolverine]

I cant believe SA havent made a single ODI WC final with all their talent over the years

 

[DrWolverine]

Don't tell that to the 11 South African women who played India a couple of days ago

If we are counting the women’s World Cup, then we should count the 2014 Under-19 World Cup as well

 

[TheJediBrah]

He was the player of series in ICC Champions Trophy and won the player of match in Finals 2000. Contributed with both bat and bowl and till date, it is the only ICC tournament win that South Africa have in their bag.

Additionally, he had a long career with 10k+ ODI runs @44 and 200+ wkts with bowl.

He is definitely a great cricketer. You could debate whether he is not better than ABD or Klusener or he is but definitely a great ODI cricketer.

Kallis was not a great ODI cricketer. IMO he was lucky to even make that SA side a lot of the time. He actually cost them games by batting too slowly (happened in Tests too but obviously much more rarely). If SA didn't have a relative dearth of top order batting in the 90s and early 00s I wouldn't have picked him

His fanboys will say it was part of their game plan but in reality his inadequacies were somewhat hidden by SAs brilliant engine room of lower order all rounders

He got better later on but that correlated with the conditions-related elevation of scores in ODI cricket

 

[Majestic]

Kallis was not a great ODI cricketer. IMO he was lucky to even make that SA side a lot of the time. He actually cost them games by batting too slowly (happened in Tests too but obviously much more rarely). If SA didn't have a relative dearth of top order batting in the 90s and early 00s I wouldn't have picked him

His fanboys will say it was part of their game plan but in reality his inadequacies were somewhat hidden by SAs brilliant engine room of lower order all rounders

He got better later on but that correlated with the conditions-related elevation of scores in ODI cricket

That’s nonsense. This guy won South Africa their only white ball ICC tournament by taking his team over the line in Finals and Semi finals and claiming that he didn’t deserved to make it to SA side is quite absurd.

Only Indians across the world cry over low strike rate of batsman in ODI cricket.

 

[DrWolverine]

Kallis was not a great ODI cricketer. IMO he was lucky to even make that SA side a lot of the time.

Kallis wasn’t a great but he added stability to the batting order, useful 5th bowler and great fielder.

 

[Majestic]

I cant believe SA havent made a single ODI WC final with all their talent over the years

Their big players ( except Miller) have choked in pressure situations unfortunately. Thanks to Kallis- they have a Champions Trophy to their name.

 

[Majestic]

Kallis wasn’t a great but he added stability to the batting order, useful 5th bowler and great fielder.

And he gave them their only white ball trophy.

 

[DrWolverine]

And he gave them their only white ball trophy.

A century in the semifinal.
A 5-Fer in the final.
A great all round performance.