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Gavaskar is the greatest batsman of all time - Viv Richards

DrWolverine

Cricketer Of The Year
No question he is one of the best ever. I would rate a few batsmen ahead of him though. Maybe Viv is talking about batsmen he played against.
 

Johan

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lol Even Viv fell for the "against mighty Windies" trick. I thought all Cricketers were experts by default.
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
There are only 3 or 4 openers in the history of the game who has a legitimate argument to make an all world XI, or be deemed the 2nd greatest opener of all time.

It's Hobbs then Hutton, Gavaskar and for many Barry.

He's top 10 elite, I don't place him in the absolute top BAB category purely because he struggled horribly in quicker conditions and his best periods weren't just against not great bowlers, but below test standard attacks.

But I have him and Hammond rounding out the top 10. When you watch him you're in awe of his ability to drive the ball and his timing. He was brilliant, a ****, but brilliant.

But two points to you.

1. You seem to misunderstand the difference between singular opinions and consensus ones.

And

2. Richards, as does most if not all of the batsmen of the era, but especially Viv as he's the one we'rediscussing now, didn't rate Hadlee as even in contention for the best bowler of the era. In numerous similar interviews, after naming Marshall as the best and Lillee as the best he played against in tests, he declines to mention a 3rd who stood out. With regards to the era that was a accepted stance.

For Imran it was Marshall, Lillee and Holding

For Crowe it was Lillee, Marshall and Holding

I don't know why you would tag me for this. Sunny was nothing short of brilliant, to be top 10 you have to be.

I've given the reason why I choose Barry over him, and for many, even if not you, they are valid, it doesn't invalidate Sunny though.
 

Coronis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
2. Richards, as does most if not all of the batsmen of the era, but especially Viv as he's the one we'rediscussing now, didn't rate Hadlee as even in contention for the best bowler of the era. In numerous similar interviews, after naming Marshall as the best and Lillee as the best he played against in tests, he declines to mention a 3rd who stood out. With regards to the era that was a accepted stance.
Wow Hadlee’s really rent free in your head isn’t he?
 

Qlder

International Captain
There are only 3 or 4 openers in the history of the game who has a legitimate argument to make an all world XI, or be deemed the 2nd greatest opener of all time.

It's Hobbs then Hutton, Gavaskar and for many Barry.
I stopped reading after this. Clearly all your Barry love posts on this forum tell you it's not many, mainly only you, that think Barry Richards is top 4 Test openers of all time (not his fault but he just didn't play enough Tests)
 

Jane Austen

State 12th Man
I fully respect the view of all those of you who saw Barry Richards play reasonably regularly but don't rate him good enough to be put in the same tier as Hobbs,Hutton and Gavaskar.
But,if you never saw the brilliance of his batting well,I'm very sorry you missed out on watching a batting genius,which is evidenced by his very impressive first-class career statistics,his dazzling performances in WSC and the lavish praise from the likes of Bradman, Fingleton,Bailey, Arlott,Woodcock.
Perhaps that brilliance is....actually unbelievable! Or,perhaps,it may be the totally understandable envy from those who never saw him in his pomp!
 
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capt_Luffy

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
There are only 3 or 4 openers in the history of the game who has a legitimate argument to make an all world XI, or be deemed the 2nd greatest opener of all time.

It's Hobbs then Hutton, Gavaskar and for many Barry.

He's top 10 elite, I don't place him in the absolute top BAB category purely because he struggled horribly in quicker conditions and his best periods weren't just against not great bowlers, but below test standard attacks.

But I have him and Hammond rounding out the top 10. When you watch him you're in awe of his ability to drive the ball and his timing. He was brilliant, a ****, but brilliant.

But two points to you.

1. You seem to misunderstand the difference between singular opinions and consensus ones.

And

2. Richards, as does most if not all of the batsmen of the era, but especially Viv as he's the one we'rediscussing now, didn't rate Hadlee as even in contention for the best bowler of the era. In numerous similar interviews, after naming Marshall as the best and Lillee as the best he played against in tests, he declines to mention a 3rd who stood out. With regards to the era that was a accepted stance.

For Imran it was Marshall, Lillee and Holding

For Crowe it was Lillee, Marshall and Holding

I don't know why you would tag me for this. Sunny was nothing short of brilliant, to be top 10 you have to be.

I've given the reason why I choose Barry over him, and for many, even if not you, they are valid, it doesn't invalidate Sunny though.
What a dogshit post, what's the point of randomly complaining about Hadlee in a thread that has nothing to do with bowling, let alone with Hadlee lolz.
 

govinda indian fan

International Vice-Captain
VIV ment sunny was best batsmen he played against which is acceptble. Experts here question smg record vs wi but forget its more grey then black&white. Sunny did well vs roberts, Marshall and holding in india in 83/84 and vs roberts&holding in 76. Only series he failed was 83 tour where he avgs 30 vs quaterlet which was only time roberts, holding, garner and Marshall played. Unlike a certain greg chappell sunny didn't chicken out.
 

Agonizingly Awkward

State 12th Man
VIV ment sunny was best batsmen he played against which is acceptble. Experts here question smg record vs wi but forget its more grey then black&white. Sunny did well vs roberts, Marshall and holding in india in 83/84 and vs roberts&holding in 76. Only series he failed was 83 tour where he avgs 30 vs quaterlet which was only time roberts, holding, garner and Marshall played. Unlike a certain greg chappell sunny didn't chicken out.
There is other clip where he calls sunny better than Sachin and the best Indian bat.
 

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