England players and selection discussion thread

[Burgey]

Carse is in cuffs, Potts is wandering about and Stokes is playing hide and seek

Basically a metaphor for their last tour of Australia then

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Carse is in cuffs,

Obviously planning to move to Australia

 

[Blenkinsop]

... and Carse has been dropped from the squad for a Test he wasn't going to play in anyway.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

... and Carse has been dropped from the squad for a Test he wasn't going to play in anyway.

That'll learn him.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

I get that there’s going to be extra scrutiny on England cricketers as opposed to jobbing county pros, but it’s interesting that nobody else seems to have got themselves in such trouble, even when they’re with Stokes. Is there a problem with English cricket as a whole, or is it just that certain members of the England team are morons?

 

[Chin Music]

I get that there’s going to be extra scrutiny on England cricketers as opposed to jobbing county pros, but it’s interesting that nobody else seems to have got themselves in such trouble, even when they’re with Stokes. Is there a problem with English cricket as a whole, or is it just that certain members of the England team are morons?

There is little doubt that there is a problem with a number of the current squad given what happened last winter. You would have thought that they would at least be more discreet in what they do.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Is there a problem with English cricket as a whole, or is it just that certain members of the England team are morons?

It can be both I guess.

 

[GIMH]

I get that there’s going to be extra scrutiny on England cricketers as opposed to jobbing county pros, but it’s interesting that nobody else seems to have got themselves in such trouble, even when they’re with Stokes. Is there a problem with English cricket as a whole, or is it just that certain members of the England team are morons?

To be fair, Carse was apparently ‘de-arrested’ so sounds like as usual the police were too heavy handed. That’s where the real problem in English society lays, not cricketers.

 

[Molehill]

To be fair, Carse was apparently ‘de-arrested’ so sounds like as usual the police were too heavy handed. That’s where the real problem in English society lays, not cricketers.

He was arrested for being drunk and disorderly, he was de-arrested after he agreed to leave the area. He must've given them a reason to arrest him in the first place. It is possible to get drunk without becoming a massive (C)arse!!

 

[GIMH]

He was arrested for being drunk and disorderly, he was de-arrested after he agreed to leave the area. He must've given them a reason to arrest him in the first place. It is possible to get drunk without becoming a massive (C)arse!!

I wasn’t being entirely serious but drunk and disorderly is a prank arrest that allows police to abuse their powers so actually I stand by it

 

[kevinw]

I get that there’s going to be extra scrutiny on England cricketers as opposed to jobbing county pros, but it’s interesting that nobody else seems to have got themselves in such trouble, even when they’re with Stokes. Is there a problem with English cricket as a whole, or is it just that certain members of the England team are morons?

I wonder if cricket more broadly has a problem with booze. You don't necessarily have to be in peak physical shape to be a pro - and if not booze, you can be overweight. After a normal county game would most sides go out drinking?

 

[Molehill]

I wonder if cricket more broadly has a problem with booze. You don't necessarily have to be in peak physical shape to be a pro - and if not booze, you can be overweight. After a normal county game would most sides go out drinking?

It finished a day early, they won, they’re in a hotel with no work the next day….tell me who in their right mind wouldn’t be having a few?

Doesn’t mean you end up in handcuffs though…

 

[Burgey]

They’ve missed the mark here, because the headline is so unrealistic you know it must be satire.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Wouldn't be stunned if England wash their hands of Carse entirely

Not nearly a good enough bowler to make up for the off field stuff (and its not a one off, he absolutely has priors in this respect)

 

[Prince EWS]

Wouldn't be stunned if England wash their hands of Carse entirely

Definitely the best thing to do if you have Carse on your hands.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

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They’ve missed the mark here, because the headline is so unrealistic you know it must be satire.

look mate as I learned in the Stokes retirement thread if you're not getting into fights at 2am you obviously don't know how to have a good time

 

[hendrix]

To be fair, Carse was apparently ‘de-arrested’ so sounds like as usual the police were too heavy handed. That’s where the real problem in English society lays, not cricketers.

I wasn’t being entirely serious but drunk and disorderly is a prank arrest that allows police to abuse their powers so actually I stand by it

I wonder if cricket more broadly has a problem with booze. You don't necessarily have to be in peak physical shape to be a pro - and if not booze, you can be overweight. After a normal county game would most sides go out drinking?

Cricket doesn't have a problem with booze. England - and New Zealand, and Australia, and Ireland, and Canada...and basically most of the English speaking hemisphere have a problem with booze. This is particularly amplified in sport, and even more so in male sport where the other great English-speaking societal problem - lad culture - has an amplifying effect. Sport in the English speaking world is infitrated with alcohol, gambling and machismo. Every single aspect of this has financial implications for professional cricketers including beverage sponsorship, gambling advertising, and appealing to the bros. Imagine you add that to 3 years of McCullum - someone famously integrated into the gambling and racehorsing industry and who openly promotes the "have a beer and a cigarette" mantra and we're somehow supposed to be surprised when young men are getting drunk.

Carse is, at least visually (i know bugger all about the bloke, so sorry), the perfect representation of this.

We have had so many victims of this play out over decades and we're still at the point of punishing the individual and doing less than zero to address the root problems.

 

[howitzer]

Cricket doesn't have a problem with booze. England - and New Zealand, and Australia, and Ireland, and Canada...and basically most of the English speaking hemisphere have a problem with booze. This is particularly amplified in sport, and even more so in male sport where the other great English-speaking societal problem - lad culture - has an amplifying effect. Sport in the English speaking world is infitrated with alcohol, gambling and machismo. Every single aspect of this has financial implications for professional cricketers including beverage sponsorship, gambling advertising, and appealing to the bros. Imagine you add that to 3 years of McCullum - someone famously integrated into the gambling and racehorsing industry and who openly promotes the "have a beer and a cigarette" mantra and we're somehow supposed to be surprised when young men are getting drunk.

Carse is, at least visually (i know bugger all about the bloke, so sorry), the perfect representation of this.

We have had so many victims of this play out over decades and we're still at the point of punishing the individual and doing less than zero to address the root problems.

The root problems have questions to answer.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Gotta have a few no work tomorrow gotta have a few I'm in a hotel gotta have a few walking outside gotta have a few

 

[Daemon]