Cricinfo's Greatest Intl Cricketers this Century

[Thala_0710]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/the-greatest-men-s-international-cricketers-2000-2025-1510638

So Cricinfo has decided to do it's list of the top 25 men's international cricketers in the period 2000-2025, taking all 3 formats into consideration.

 

[Thala_0710]

They've started the countdown and the first names are-
25th: Ravichandran Ashwin
24th: Stuart Broad
23rd: Kevin Pietersen

 

[OverratedSanity]

We first compiled a longlist of 70-plus cricketers, based on the players' statistics and by assessing the weight of their achievements. This was then narrowed down to 30 names after a rigorous process involving vetting by the site's senior editorial staff. The list of 30 was sent out to the jury, each of whom was asked to pick their top 25, which would yield us the greatest batter, the greatest bowler, and greatest all-round cricketer.

This seems like a very poor way to do things? The whole list is 25 players and the pool of players the jury can pick from is only 30 ? It makes absolutely no sense. The jury can't be limited to this extent... surely there'll be plenty of cases where the jury wanted to vote for players that weren't even part of the shortlist cricinfo created.

 

[Thala_0710]

This seems like a very poor way to do things? The whole list is 25 players and the pool of players the jury can pick from is only 30 players? It makes absolutely no sense. The jury can't be limited to this extent... surely there'll be plenty of cases where the jury wanted to vote for players that weren't even part of the shortlist cricinfo created.

Exactly, like why not just give the whole 70 players list you shortlisted to the panelists? If you're going to produce a top 30 statistically might as well just publish that then... Or if you want it jury based let the jury work out from the initial 70

 

[DrWolverine]

All 3 formats.
This will be quite interesting.

 

[Thala_0710]

Also they've not specified whether they're counting those guys who debuted before 2000... I'm assuming they are but if Stuart Broad is in 24th place then who knows

 

[DrWolverine]

If weightage is given to all formats they played, Virat Kohli or Jasprit Bumrah maybe number one.

 

[Thala_0710]

If you're including pre 2000 debut cricketers too then Tendulkar Mcgrath Murali and probably Kallis have shouts too.... But then again a lot of their work was done in the 90s too, especially for Tendulkar

 

[DrWolverine]

I forgot about them.
Murali & Kallis are top picks.

 

[DrWolverine]

 

[DrWolverine]

Murali should probably top the list.
ODIs : 357 wickets. 11 5Fer
Tests : 573 wickets. 50 5Fer and 20 10WPM.

 

[Coronis]

Murali should probably top the list.
ODIs : 357 wickets. 8 5Fer
Tests : 573 wickets. 50 5Fer and 20 10WPM.

ftfy

Also why no T20 bowler list?

 

[peterhrt]

Also they've not specified whether they're counting those guys who debuted before 2000... I'm assuming they are but if Stuart Broad is in 24th place then who knows

"This came on the heels of an equally elaborate exercise to pick the greatest cricketers in the women's game this century."

"Note: only achievements posted after January 1, 2000 are taken into consideration, even if the athlete's career ran either side of the millennium"

 

[shortpitched713]

T20is didn't start until 2005 though so, how do you judge players from the early part of the century in that format?

 

[Silver Silva]

If weightage is given to all formats they played, Virat Kohli or Jasprit Bumrah maybe number one.

Kohli would make sense to be no.1

Because he has held no.1 ranking in every format.

He once averaged 50 in every format

He has Captained team India to No.1 ranking , he has won every ICC white ball tournament .
He has the biggest fan appeal .
Ticks all the boxes.

 

[manoftommorow]

Let’s see where Steve Smith and Joe Root end up ranking.

 

[Randomfan]

There are not too many players with demonstrated high standards in all formats. That's an expected outcome.

Happily playing 3 runs an over for as long as you want vs forced to score 12 runs an over requires two vastly different skill sets. Very few will have them.

 

[DrWolverine]

ABD was someone who was great in both test cricket, one day cricket but not T20I(extraordinary in IPl though)

 

[Thala_0710]

22nd: Virender Sehwag
21st: Mahela Jayawardene
20th: Pat Cummins

 

[ankitj]

Because he has held no.1 ranking in every format.

As has Bumrah.