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Celebrating Imran Khan

shortpitched713

International Coach
Whose side was Epstein on
Epstein like invented video game microtransactions.

He was mainlined to Satan as far as I'm concerned, and he apparently had his hands in so many pots you could tell me he was behind literally anything bad that happened in the past 30 odd years and I would not be incredulous at this point.
 
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honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
We in subcontinent exaggerate the role of US in political events IMO. Apparently the toppling of govts in Bangladesh and Nepal were also done by US. I don't believe any of it.
Nah here I think there was a definite connection to the Pak policy on US, although I dunno if the US were actively involved in the resultant coup.
 

govinda indian fan

International Captain
Imo imran was not liked by us&west because he used anti Americanism as wepon to gain predominance in kpk(kpk was trageted by American drones durin 08-14) also called bin laden a martyr and mocked usa saying taliban broke shackles of slavery. It made usa suspicious of him and made sure Republican or Democrat no us administiton would support him which duly followed by uk and eu
 

ankitj

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Nah here I think there was a definite connection to the Pak policy on US, although I dunno if the US were actively involved in the resultant coup.
I'm sure US has their favorites in the region. And there are some levers they pull to trade favours. Same as India in the region. I just don't think they can orchestrate regime changes at will.
 

subshakerz

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Imo imran was not liked by us&west because he used anti Americanism as wepon to gain predominance in kpk(kpk was trageted by American drones durin 08-14) also called bin laden a martyr and mocked usa saying taliban broke shackles of slavery. It made usa suspicious of him and made sure Republican or Democrat no us administiton would support him which duly followed by uk and eu
It’s rather simple. The US likes more pliable puppets, Imran for all his faults is a stubborn guy who doesn’t like taking orders.
 

Abhay423

State Vice-Captain

Great read
Yeah it's very well written. The thing to take out of this is more than his skills, it was Imran's presence that enabled some of the lesser players to perform at their most optimum level. It's a very useful thing when you are running a cricket team. Not everyone is as good as you but if you provide them an environment to flourish, the standing of the team rises ten folds. Current Pakistan team lacks that fight and self believe more than anything else. Talent will come and go but if you lose the dog then it is a downward spiral. Sajid Khan is the prototype cricketer under Imran, guy with limited ability but great character. You see him bat, bowl or field, it's 100% commitment every single time. Pak needs more players like him.
 

subshakerz

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Yeah it's very well written. The thing to take out of this is more than his skills, it was Imran's presence that enabled some of the lesser players to perform at their most optimum level. It's a very useful thing when you are running a cricket team. Not everyone is as good as you but if you provide them an environment to flourish, the standing of the team rises ten folds. Current Pakistan team lacks that fight and self believe more than anything else. Talent will come and go but if you lose the dog then it is a downward spiral. Sajid Khan is the prototype cricketer under Imran, guy with limited ability but great character. You see him bat, bowl or field, it's 100% commitment every single time. Pak needs more players like him.
Yup. Mentorship is sorely lacking.
 

Chin Music

International Regular
Imran is a top 3 all rounder easily.
At worst, Top 5.
I had always rated Imran as better than Kallis when this was discussion ever came about because in their primary disciplines I had Imran ahead but not far, though I rated Imran's batting higher than Kallis's bowling by a reasonable amount
 

DrWolverine

Cricketer Of The Year
I had always rated Imran as better than Kallis when this was discussion ever came about because in their primary disciplines I had Imran ahead but not far, though I rated Imran's batting higher than Kallis's bowling by a reasonable amount
Imran the bowler > Kallis the batsman as well
 

Chin Music

International Regular
Imran the bowler > Kallis the batsman as well
That's what I meant when I said that I had Imran ahead in their primary disciplines but not by much. Of course, it is a fair shout that Kallis was a greater fielder too but even so, I would still have had Imran ahaed overall.
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
I had always rated Imran as better than Kallis when this was discussion ever came about because in their primary disciplines I had Imran ahead but not far, though I rated Imran's batting higher than Kallis's bowling by a reasonable amount
Think Imran is the better all rounder, Kallis the better all round cricketer?

That's what I meant when I said that I had Imran ahead in their primary disciplines but not by much. Of course, it is a fair shout that Kallis was a greater fielder too but even so, I would still have had Imran ahaed overall.
I think Imran was more valuable and better in primary, just.

It swaps for secondary for me, would prefer to have that level of 4th / 5th bowler, think it's more valuable as well.

Imran ahead overall.
 

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