Bowlers who would have been better if they just pitched the darn ball up

[TheJediBrah]

My prediction is this thread will be full of bowlers that specialised in back of a length/hit the deck bowling and would have actually ended up doing worse if they pitched it up more instead

 

[shortpitched713]

My prediction is this thread will be full of bowlers that specialised in back of a length/hit the deck bowling and would have actually ended up doing worse if they pitched it up more instead

@Prince EWS for another "actually the opposite" sighting.

 

[wpdavid]

I think that was sometimes said about Mike Hendrick.

 

[mr_mister]

Dizzy Gillespie's cricinfo page mentioned he beat the edge of the bat for no reward more than most. Not sure if that was due to his length being too short though

 

[Migara]

Javagal Srinath

 

[Migara]

My prediction is this thread will be full of bowlers that specialised in back of a length/hit the deck bowling and would have actually ended up doing worse if they pitched it up more instead

The subset would be players who kept beating bats by half a foot. They are the ones that would have been lethal by pitching it half a meter fuller.

 

[shortpitched713]

I wish bowling was simple enough that this premise would work, and we wouldn't have any bowlers with over 30+ averages.

 

[the big bambino]

I think its great bowlers average 30+, even 40. Especially in this age of subcon bunsens and Aus and SA mambas. Nice to see them get a comeuppance on a Bazball road every now and then.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Morkel by far

Notable mentions Siddle and Hilfenhaus (their short **** bowling machine tripe in 10/11 is still traumatic). Flintoff is also a good call

Siddle and Hilfenhaus in 2010 wasn't short of a length. It was short ****.

 

[Chin Music]

My prediction is this thread will be full of bowlers that specialised in back of a length/hit the deck bowling and would have actually ended up doing worse if they pitched it up more instead

I think Andy Caddick is a classic example of this. There were times when he bowled his natural length and he would forever beat the bat. Then when he pitched it a good deal fuller he looked slow and floaty. I bet a lot of very tall pace bowlers would be similar to that.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Jadeja

 

[OverratedSanity]

Mohamad shami and jasprit bumrah in england both shami(in 18&21) and bumrah (21&25) beat the bat so many times that had pitches bit fuller would have had plenty of wickets

Shami yes, Bumrah nah. Bumrah wasn't bowling short, he just had like a dozen catches dropped off his bowling.

 

[Starfighter]

I think Andy Caddick is a classic example of this. There were times when he bowled his natural length and he would forever beat the bat. Then when he pitched it a good deal fuller he looked slow and floaty. I bet a lot of very tall pace bowlers would be similar to that.

Funny Benaud thought the opposite to you about Caddick, that his tendency to under pitch was a major failing. The major advantage of being tall is that you can pitch the ball up further for a given height of bounce.

 

[Chin Music]

Funny Benaud thought the opposite to you about Caddick, that his tendency to under pitch was a major failing. The major advantage of being tall is that you can pitch the ball up further for a given height of bounce.

I recall it being quite a matter of debate at the time between where he should go in terms of lengths, especially in England although I couldn't have told you who said what in terms of the major commentators. I recall a good yorker in the 2000 West Indies series, and he was probably at his best in that period.

 

[Migara]

I recall it being quite a matter of debate at the time between where he should go in terms of lengths, especially in England although I couldn't have told you who said what in terms of the major commentators. I recall a good yorker in the 2000 West Indies series, and he was probably at his best in that period.

Difference with Caddick and Srinath was that Srinath prodigously moved the ball in air and off the pitch. When he found reverse swing and kept it full he looked ridiculously dangerous, even more than Allan Donald bowling at full tilt. He delivered such a devastating spell in Ahmedabad, against SAF, who play pace well.

 

[Chin Music]

Difference with Caddick and Srinath was that Srinath prodigously moved the ball in air and off the pitch. When he found reverse swing and kept it full he looked ridiculously dangerous, even more than Allan Donald bowling at full tilt. He delivered such a devastating spell in Ahmedabad, against SAF, who play pace well.

I just looked up Srinath's record as a result of your post and his record was a bit better than I anticipated. It was set back a bit by him having a poor record in SENA, I guess as a result of probably not getting his length right. He was a bit guilty of that in 1996 over in England. I do recall that him and Prasad caused England a few problems but never took enough wickets and the back up seam bowling was nowhere near good enough.

 

[subshakerz]

I just looked up Srinath's record as a result of your post and his record was a bit better than I anticipated. It was set back a bit by him having a poor record in SENA, I guess as a result of probably not getting his length right. He was a bit guilty of that in 1996 over in England. I do recall that him and Prasad caused England a few problems but never took enough wickets and the back up seam bowling was nowhere near good enough.

Good example here. Pace and movement but too short.

 

[Ali TT]

Good example here. Pace and movement but too short.

Not sure that video proves your point with one play and miss to a good length ball and a dropped catch.

However have seen plenty of English seamers get carried away with the extra carry Down Under

 

[Chin Music]

Not sure that video proves your point with one play and miss to a good length ball and a dropped catch.

However have seen plenty of English seamers get carried away with the extra carry Down Under

Yeah, that's what I thought. Even the classic English fast mediums go too short in Aus because they see the ball hit the keeper's gloves at shoulder height compared to here.