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    Dhoni admitting that he had too much to do when he came in to bat was surely not right and neither was his approach in that innings.

    Another thing that is pretty evident is we don't have depth in batting to do well against quality sides. Wondering who would be in line for ODIs if the management decide to make certain changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorax View Post
    That is not a ****ing excuse.

    You don't walk out to bat, as captain of your Country, at a ****ing World Cup Semi Final in a difficult situation and go "beh **** it, too hard. Lets just play out the overs"

    ITS A ****ING WORLD CUP SEMI FINAL

    SHOW SOME FIGHT

    zzz tired of everyone defending Dhoni here. You can't have any excuse for not trying. It's absolutely disgraceful.
    But Dhoni didn't do that. He didn't say, oh, look we can't win, for sure. He timed the chase wrong. Left it too late. It shouldn't have happened, and the attack should have come earlier, but cricketing errors happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anil1405 View Post
    Dhoni admitting that he had too much to do when he came in to bat was surely not right
    I watched that press conference. He had a lot to do. That's a fact. This is just making a mountain out of a molehill, jeez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratters View Post
    I watched that press conference. He had a lot to do. That's a fact. This is just making a mountain out of a molehill, jeez.
    Making a mountain out of a molehill is blaming Anushka for the loss, or burning TV sets or #shameinSydney.

    No one here is doing that. We are just pointing out some obvious facts that Dhoni could've tried and gone down rather than just falling flat. And neither did I like him admitting that he had too much to do in presentation as this usually isn't a sign of a fighting team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anil1405 View Post
    And neither did I like him admitting that he had too much to do in presentation as this usually isn't a sign of a fighting team.
    He had a lot to do and he said that. That doesn't mean the team was not a fighting one. That's why it is a mountain out of a mole hill. You are equating his leaving it too late to lack of fighting, which isn't true. The Indian team has fought pretty well this whole tournament. Even in this game, to pull back Australia to less than 330 when they looked like they would make 360/370 was definitely what a fighting team would do.

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    Yeah now that I've calmed down my thoughts are closer to Pratters than zorax. I just think it was a combination of him not timing the chase right and the bowling being excellent. Not going after the part timers really hurt us in the end and it was excellent captaincy from Clarke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratters View Post
    He had a lot to do and he said that. That doesn't mean the team was not a fighting one. That's why it is a mountain out of a mole hill. You are equating his leaving it too late to lack of fighting, which isn't true. The Indian team has fought pretty well this whole tournament. Even in this game, to pull back Australia to less than 330 when they looked like they would make 360/370 was definitely what a fighting team would do.
    You're right. The team fought so well throughout the tournament and even in the first innings of this game to restrict Aus to 330. That makes it a bit more disappointing to see MS give up in the way he did.

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    He left the charge to too late. Saying he effectively threw in the towel and gave up isn't fair. He batted with Rahane and got to the stage where they could have started the charge. That was not what I would call giving up. People miscalculate, it's sport - criticise him all you want for that. Saying he gave up, is making things in your mind. You don't start criticisng sportsmen for giving up until you know factually that they did.
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    The run out Was good though. Saved on the cleaning Bill by not diving

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratters View Post
    He left the charge to too late. Saying he effectively threw in the towel and gave up isn't fair. He batted with Rahane and got to the stage where they could have started the charge. That was not what I would call giving up. People miscalculate, it's sport - criticise him all you want for that. Saying he gave up, is making things in your mind. You don't start criticisng sportsmen for giving up until you know factually that they did.
    It's the interview he gave more than anything that's making people think this, though.

    When I watched it live, I just thought he miscalculated a bit, left his run slightly late and got no support when he needed it. **** happens. His interview told a bit of a different story though; he came across very defeatist and I think zorax's concerns may have a hint of truth to them.
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    The run out says everything for me personally. Hardly bothered to make an effort to get in. That summed up his body language.

    Again, taking no credit away from what he had done throughout the tournament. It was just this one innings which I did not like from him.
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    @ PEWS Which interview? Is it some thing different to the press conference or was it some thing some reported in the press conference and put it down as an interview? A lot of times what MSD says is construed as a million things by a million people. For instance, in the presser, he said that they have been here 3.5 months, if they were there 0.5 months more, they could apply for citizenship. Now that was said with a bit of humour, to highlight what a long tour this had been, and it can be tough on the players. Some people would start commenting on that as if he is giving an excuse.

    Here, I have a feeling that he said it was a steep one for him and people are construing it as if he gave up as it was a steep chase. When you come into bat chasing 330 and 100 some thing for four with not lot a batting left, it is a steep chase. That is a fact and saying it doesn't make it any less or more steep.
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