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2015 World Cup compared to other World Cups

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
The super sixes was the best format, IMO.

- reduced the impact of a single game; let's face it sometimes cricket can be a bit too much of a lottery. Find the 4 best teams rather than the 8 best, and go from there, IMO.
- At the same time, increased the value of each match due to the fact that points were carried over
- 6 teams meant that 2 of the better sides would be knocked out, which made things more interesting.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
- 6 teams meant that 2 of the better sides would be knocked out, which made things more interesting.
Three actually, as Zimbabwe were quite capable of beating good sides on their day when the Super Sixes were a thing. So much so that they actually qualified for them in practice; not just in theory.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
The super sixes was the best format, IMO.

- reduced the impact of a single game; let's face it sometimes cricket can be a bit too much of a lottery. Find the 4 best teams rather than the 8 best, and go from there, IMO.
- At the same time, increased the value of each match due to the fact that points were carried over
- 6 teams meant that 2 of the better sides would be knocked out, which made things more interesting.
yeah this still can't understand why ICC got rid off it.
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
The super sixes was the best format, IMO.

- reduced the impact of a single game; let's face it sometimes cricket can be a bit too much of a lottery. Find the 4 best teams rather than the 8 best, and go from there, IMO.
- At the same time, increased the value of each match due to the fact that points were carried over
- 6 teams meant that 2 of the better sides would be knocked out, which made things more interesting.
DWTA. The stupid carry over system where you only carried over points from matches against fellow qualifiers made it even more of a lottery. It devalued the standings from the group stage when Zimbabwe went into the super six with more points than the table toppers South Africa.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
The 2015 format sucks but I don't see any reason to think the teams aren't good. There aren't that many presiding "legends" of the game playing their last or even second last WC. Maybe like Dhoni, Clarke, Sangakkara, maybe Steyn... but for the most part it's a transitional time in international cricket. That's not a bad thing though, would definitely make for a better tournament than the 1992 model where a lot of the "stars" are past their best or the 2007 one where there's one completely dominant, unstoppable team.

Besides I actually think the raw quality of some of the teams is pretty high. Australia's team is better than 2011 for sure, would say the same about SA and NZ too.

Main problem with the 2015 format is there's just too many games before people can get eliminated. I'm pro-minnows in the WC but there needs to be two group stages or something. Some smaller groups (6 groups of 3 maybe, or 4 groups of 4) feeding into a smaller league format, basically like the 1999 version but with more teams involved in total. Or failing that, just groups into QFs. Like 90% of the games in this WC will have no impact on who actually wins.
 
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smash84

The Tiger King
DWTA. The stupid carry over system where you only carried over points from matches against fellow qualifiers made it even more of a lottery. It devalued the standings from the group stage when Zimbabwe went into the super six with more points than the table toppers South Africa.
how did carrying over the points against only the fellow qualifiers make it even more of a lottery?
 

smash84

The Tiger King
Because being group topper is no guarantee of entering the super six stage with an advantage over your fellow qualifiers.
Yeah but the chances are good that you might carry over some points. In a QF knockout round it doesn't really matter what you did in the previous round. Once you are in the knockout round previous matches don't matter one iota.

So no, super 6s don't make it even more of a lottery
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
Yeah but the chances are good that you might carry over some points. In a QF knockout round it doesn't really matter what you did in the previous round. Once you are in the knockout round previous matches don't matter one iota.

So no, super 6s don't make it even more of a lottery
They do. The group rankings can be made an absolute mockery of with super six carry over points system. Quarterfinals pay heed to the group rankings by pairing up stronger teams with weaker ones. If Aus or SL want to avoid a rampaging AB in the QF, they had better make sure they end up at the top of their group. That's incentive. (jk, lol. As if SA aren't going to choke again).

The obvious solution, if super sixes are preferred, is to advance the qualifying teams with points that reflect their standing at the end of the group stage. The carry over points system reeks of an MBA executive trying to be too clever at the ICC discussion table when it came to the nitty gritties.
 
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smash84

The Tiger King
They do. The group rankings can be made an absolute mockery of with super six carry over points system. Quarterfinals pay heed to the group rankings by pairing up stronger teams with weaker ones. If Aus or SL want to avoid a rampaging AB in the QF, they had better make sure they end up at the top of their group. That's incentive. (jk, lol. As if SA aren't going to choke again).

The obvious solution, if super sixes are preferred, is to advance the qualifying teams with points that reflect their standing at the end of the group stage. The carry over points system reeks of an MBA executive trying to be too clever at the ICC discussion table when it came to the nitty gritties.
This sounds like an the BCCI argument on why they don't choose the DRS :p
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
It's a hell of a lot easier to fix a stupid points system than it is to make DRS "100% fool-proof".
 

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