WWCC - Loyaulte Mi Lie
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I would put Viv ahead of Tendulkar in ODIs only on the grounds that he has the big centuries in WC knockout rounds, something Sachin couldn't quite get done. Still he won the WC he was waiting for, so that's a nice consolation. Before the tournament, I said if Sachin has a great WC and scores a match-winning century in the final (any one of the knockout games would have sufficed), I'll put him alongside Richards. Didn't happen, but he did pretty well all the same.
Dhoni plays a more similar role to Bevan but is harder hitting. However, Bevan was far superior to Dhoni as a finisher - so much more consistent. So definitely Bevan is ahead of Dhoni in my opinion. But he wouldn't be in my top five ODI batsman, and if he makes my top ten, it probably be at the bottom of that list. But to each his own I suppose.
As for Ponting, in ODIs, I have to say that I agree that I don't think he belongs with Tendulkar and Viv but IMO he's still up there, probably in the top five though I haven't really thought about anyone outside the top two. Dean Jones should make it up there too in that top ODI batsmen list.
Certainly it's hard to argue against those two as the best in ODIs, and they would most likely be 1&2 for me. All I was saying is RTP belongs in the argument and is a top tier, and I mean very top tier, ODI player.
Don't see why a 100 in a knockout needs to occur instead of an 80+ score vs. Pakistan in a match where no one scored a hundred? You have to put the amount of runs in context.
Was dropped a few times obviously, but without his runs India would have definitely lost to Pakistan.
"I am very happy and it will allow me to have lot more rice."
Eoin Morgan on being given a rice cooker for being Man of the Match in a Dhaka Premier Division game.
Jeez VCS you are indeed a hard man to please, mate!
I also have no problem how people rate these guys - whether it be Viv, Sachin, Bevan or Ponting - but no player is 95>50 in ODIs. There is no Bradman equivalent. For me: Bevan >= Viv > Sachin > Ponting.
As an aside, I was looking through Youtube for Bevan innings and he has a 185* against Asia XI that he went absolutely berserk in. They lost by 1 run IIRC as the last shot a 6 was needed and his only went for a 4. Caddick also screwed them by not grounding his bat. Is one of the best ODI innings ever, even if it is not official.
Last edited by Ikki; 04-04-2011 at 04:44 AM.
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