Dhoni is a superstar. Haters can suck it

[Bun]

Originally Posted by 8ankitj

That's Dhoni for you. Does huge things but does them nonchalantly and without fuss. One rare show of emotion in the match though was when he was forces into a single by Yuvi. He hit his own pads so hard that the thud was audible beyond the boundary rope they say.

More like he was angry with himself for doing the stop-start-stop routine. Could've easily been a run out had it been a lesser agile batsman.

[8ankitj]

Originally Posted by Bun

Once in a lifetime player really.

It can be said of Dhoni and Tendulkar what someone said about Bradman and Warne - "There'd sooner be another Tendulkar than there'd be another Dhoni"

Doesn't mean Dhoni is a greater cricketer but only more unique.

[zorax]

I disagree with that. Calm, cool, re-assuring leaders who thrived under pressure who rose to the occassion when in mattered. Steve Waugh anyone?

There'll definitely be more like Dhoni before there are any more like Tendulkar.

Not to deny the fact that Dhoni is just awesome.

[8ankitj]

Well yeah, Bradman - Warne comment wasn't anymore true either

[honestbharani]

Originally Posted by Ikki

I am not really referring to this thread, but the post you made here and the one in the match thread. You make it sound like this one knock makes the prior criticisms suddenly invalid. There is nothing misinformed about the critique Dhoni had gotten for not stepping up at WCs.



Gilchrist has performed far better than Dhoni in WCs although Dhoni is probably better than him overall.

I don't recall saying that but I may have. My gripe is with Dhoni being compared to Bevan. Dhoni has never played the kind of innings Bevan has at WCs. And that's not something I bring up as some sort of tie-breaker - because I think Bevan is better overall regardless. I think it shows a clear lack of respect to compare a colossus of the limited overs game to someone who before today had never played an innings of note at the most important event in said format.

A great knock today, but outside it Dhoni had a very forgettable tourney.

So Bevan made an amazing 90* in a WC final at home under the most immense pressure a cricketer can imagine? Already Dhoni has trumped Ponting and Gilchrist in WC finals for me... So he is the best eva........

[zorax]

They're definitely be another match-winning spin bowling genius before there is another batsman who averages 99. I mean Murali FFS, he was right there playing alongside Warne during all that time.

[8ankitj]

Originally Posted by zorax

They're definitely be another match-winning spin bowling genius before there is another batsman who averages 99. I mean Murali FFS, he was right there playing alongside Warne during all that time.

Exactly. These things are said for an effect and shouldn't be taken literally

[honestbharani]

Originally Posted by Bun

More like he was angry with himself for doing the stop-start-stop routine. Could've easily been a run out had it been a lesser agile batsman.

Not really... I think he had a go at Yuvi coz Yuvi was running on the other pitch and Dhoni could not even see him for a couple of seconds there.. And with run outs, that is an eternity..

[abmk]

Originally Posted by Sanz

How close he is to Sir IVA Richards as an ODI batsman ?

On a scale of 1-100, I will have IVAR a freaking 95. Bevan at 50. That's how close he is.

LOL, wut ?

[smalishah84]

agree with abmk.....the difference pointed out by Sanz is a little too much to be digested

[Jono]

Yeah Bevan was a legend.

Him hitting that 4 off the last ball is still to this day one of my favourite childhood cricket memories.

I'd still say Viv shades him, but there is an argument either way. Same with Sachin and Ponting imo.

[Shri]

I am interested in knowing what the required run rate was in matches where Bevan took Aus home in run chases. Anyway to find that in statsguru?

[Jono]

Best way would be to look at fall-of-wickets and see what it was when he arrived at the crease.

[Burgey]

Originally Posted by Jono

Yeah Bevan was a legend.

Him hitting that 4 off the last ball is still to this day one of my favourite childhood cricket memories.

I'd still say Viv shades him, but there is an argument either way. Same with Sachin and Ponting imo.

Was at that game when he hit that shot.

He was a great player. Still think Viv by a big margin tbh. But it really is apples and oranges.

[Jono]

Yeah, I almost feel that you're better off having a debate between Viv, Sachin and Ponting when it comes to ODI cricket.

Bevan played a completely different role.