Last edited by smalishah84; 05-04-2011 at 12:39 AM.
And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW
Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta
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gooch20! i respect the fact that you are embarrassed about afridi's comments. but dont try to defend him. he is not your responsibility.
these things, about religion, dont come out accidentally. they are the result of years of brain washing through religious texts and fundamentalist ideology. all uneducated idiots around the globe think and speak like this. unfortunately pakistan has a big share of this kind. (EDIT: I think that is a bit unfair. Even India and US have these fools in large numbers. different religions, different gods but same stupidity)
Last edited by bagapath; 05-04-2011 at 12:49 AM.
Yeah well let's call Afridi a joker and drop it. This forum has been clear of India-Pak verbal wars and I like it this way
its so funny that people are analyzing Afridi statements with so much detail. This is the same idiot who chewed a cricket ball on camera accused his younger players for ogling the crowd gets caught with call girls and then flip flops and starts playing the Islamic card. He's an idiot of the highest order but tbf he's an entertaining idiot.
Last edited by Xuhaib; 05-04-2011 at 12:50 AM.
Whatever Afridi, or any other player, has said, negative generalisations against a nationality (or team) because of the actions of some of them aren't okay. I have deleted these comments and the response to them, moderators will discuss what, if any, further action to take. Please don't anyone continue along these lines.
Last edited by four_or_six; 05-04-2011 at 01:21 AM.
I knew my new found respect for Afridi would last for a day at the most. disappointed that he proved me right.
If we're going to start scrutinizing statements made by sportsmen,then there are far too many examples of others who have said more unappropriate things.I didn't hear of this statement from Afridi since i wasn't on the forums or watching too much of TV for last 1-2 days.The statement itself is stupid.No one can deny that.I love Afridi,but this statement was wrong.But judging him on this statement alone is wrong.
I don't think he was under any political pressure to say something like this.It was just a spur of the moment thing.He's a blunt man,not the most politically correct,and sometimes he will say things that will piss off a lot of people.This is one of those things.I don't think it was planned malice from his side,nor is he bitter over the loss,since you don't expect someone to say positive things and then do a complete u-turn in a few days time.It was a moment of sheer stupidity.The text has been translated in English,so it's also possible that the actual quote in Urdu would have had a different context.Either way,it's a silly comment and one that he should not have made.
Defending him is wrong,but attacking him is not entirely right either.There is a lot that goes into a person's mentality,and the comment made by Afridi reeks of a biased educational system,a biased media etc.These things happen on both sides of the border,but the Indian Players know how to handle the media better than the Pakistanis,which leads to comments such as the ones made by Afridi and even Shoaib Malik.Silly stuff happens on both sides of the border,Quran burning in India,Hindi bashing in Pakistan,but that does not in any way reflect the entire mood of a nation.I believe the middle and lower class in both countries has the same set of values,the same feelings towards the neighbor.The difference arises at the top where our people fail to handle the media as well as their Indian counterparts.This isn't limited to sportsmen alone,but any public figure.The Indians have learned to handle the media well as a result of the stronger educational system.We on the other hand,have not been able to do so since our educational system is poor.
Condemn Afridi's statement.That is justified.But do not judge him on the statement.
If it were a one-off thing, I think people would've reacted differently. Personally, I have no idea why he is well-liked. The guy is an unpleasant hypocrite on- and off-field and useless with the bat. I guess he is a pretty good bowler, but nowhere near an all-time-great.
Salman - I saw both those interviews in Urdu and neither of them have been taken out of context. He definitely said what he did. Also, not sure about this Quran burning you speak of. I believe a Pakistani flag was burnt right after the Mumbai attacks, but I know nothing about a Quran being burnt. I take your point though - it was a blatantly stupid comment, but I disagree education or media awareness have a big role to play. Can you imagine Wasim Akram or Inzamam-ul-Haq saying something like that? Like I said, it is a bit disturbing that quite a few Pakistani players still seem to think India vs Pakistan = Hindu vs Muslim, which is just wrong . Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, someone should tell them the number of Muslims in India is almost bigger than the entire population of Pakistan itself.
Anyway - Afridi just appeared on one of our news channels and did another U-turn. He said he likes India a lot and never meant to make those comments.
Also, Gambhir never said the win against Pakistan was a revenge for 26/11. He said he'd like to dedicate the World Cup win to the victims of 26/11. Nothing about Pakistan, nothing about revenge. It's just the media twisting stuff as usual.
Last edited by Blaze 18; 05-04-2011 at 04:16 AM.
It plays a HUGE role. Education brings people into contact with a lot of different ideas. It gives them an opportunity to think things through. There is a world of difference of between an educated and a non-educated man. Sadly Afridi belongs to the latter category
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