Best WC in a long time? - Page 2

Athlai · 19-03-2011, 07:10 PM

Canada almost beat Pakistan at one stage.

tooextracool · 19-03-2011, 07:43 PM

Actually thought this one was a pretty good advertisment for the minnows. There are a number of players that made a name for themselves this tournament (Baidwan, Balaji Rao, Kevin O'brien, William Porterfield, George Dockrell, Pieter Seelaar, RTD to name a few). If anything, this world cup has shown that the gap between the minnows and the top of the pile has narrowed considerably. Granted there were still disappointments and the top 8 did scrape through but I have no problem with a group stage involving several minnows. What I dont want to see is a month long group stage that is absolutely meaningless, which is kind of what happened this time. Basically these teams played for a month only to tell us what we already knew, that the top 8 teams in world cricket are South Africa, Australia, England, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, New Zealand and West Indies.

tooextracool · 19-03-2011, 07:47 PM

On topic, is this the best world cup in a long time? Yes, best since 1999, but that has almost entirely to do with how even the top 8 are and England being quite generous and nothing to do with the format or the quality of play.

Somerset Chops · 19-03-2011, 10:15 PM

I think its been a top WC.

I like the format to , the only thing i would change is having 2 matches played per day every day throughout the group stages.

stephen · 19-03-2011, 10:40 PM

Group B has been quite good, but apart from NZ vs Pakistan there really wasn't any good games in group A.

Jono · 19-03-2011, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephen

3) Too many minnow games (seriously, did we really need to see Canada get thrashed by four different top 8 countries?).

Except Canada didn't get 'thrashed' by four top 8 countries.

Jono · 19-03-2011, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephen

Group B has been quite good, but apart from NZ vs Pakistan there really wasn't any good games in group A.

Sri Lanka vs. Pakistan.

Bun · 19-03-2011, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jono

Sri Lanka vs. Pakistan.

Aus vs Pak was also looking good... till the last 10 overs, it could've been anyone's game..

Also Aus vs SL was also turning out to be interesting when rain intervened.

Jono · 19-03-2011, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooextracool

Actually thought this one was a pretty good advertisment for the minnows. There are a number of players that made a name for themselves this tournament (Baidwan, Balaji Rao, Kevin O'brien, William Porterfield, George Dockrell, Pieter Seelaar, RTD to name a few). If anything, this world cup has shown that the gap between the minnows and the top of the pile has narrowed considerably. Granted there were still disappointments and the top 8 did scrape through but I have no problem with a group stage involving several minnows.

awta

Spark · 19-03-2011, 11:32 PM

Minnows have been great. Overall the whole tournament has been swell for mine, plenty of memorable events, unexpected results and tense matches, despite the occasional thrashing. Yes, that's more to do with the teams than the organisation of the WC itself, but who cares? This'll only happen once every four years, enjoy it while it lasts.

stephen · 20-03-2011, 12:16 AM

I am enjoying it, but it will be sad not to see an Aus vs SA game at some stage.

vcs · 20-03-2011, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spark

Minnows have been great. Overall the whole tournament has been swell for mine, plenty of memorable events, unexpected results and tense matches, despite the occasional thrashing. Yes, that's more to do with the teams than the organisation of the WC itself, but who cares? This'll only happen once every four years, enjoy it while it lasts.

AWTA. Also the batting powerplay rule deserves a lot of credit for producing some exciting games IMO, it has turned matches by working in favour of (Ireland) and against the batting side (England, India).

BoyBrumby · 20-03-2011, 01:35 AM

It's been the most exciting tournament since 99 for me. It's probably succeeded in spite of its format rather than because of it though. 6 group games each feels like maybe a couple too many but the ICC's hands were rather forced after the 2007 tournament.

I'm not putting on a tinfoil hat and hiding under my table with the other conspiracy theorists, but it's an undeniable fact that India and, to a lesser extent, Pakistan being eliminated before the Super 8 stage cost millions in advertising revenue. The ICC rather cooked the books to avoid this eventuality this time around and England, advancing despite two losses to minnows, have been the unwitting beneficiaries.

Anyway, don't mean to carp, has been thoroughly enjoyable so far and hopefully the KO stages will continue in this vein.

smalishah84 · 20-03-2011, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephen

Group B has been quite good, but apart from NZ vs Pakistan there really wasn't any good games in group A.

Pak vs SL? Pak vs Aus? Even SL vs Aus was looking good. Pak vs NZ wasn't such a great game. Pakistan lost the plot from the 45th over of NZ's innings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bun

Aus vs Pak was also looking good... till the last 10 overs, it could've been anyone's game..

Also Aus vs SL was also turning out to be interesting when rain intervened.

Daemon · 20-03-2011, 02:18 AM

This is the first WC I have watched properly and with keen interest. Been awesome, loved all the minnow games including thrashing, got to see all the quality players in their sides. It's good to know that with effort, we might have a new "Bangladesh" in Ireland. On the other hand Kenya and Zimbabwe have really deproved over the years, not the players faults maybe but I think it's time to move on from them and focus on Netherlands and Ireland.

Love the fact that theres a game to watch everyday, and doing work is made so much less exhausting, albeit distracting, when you can follow a game at the same time. This tournament comes every four years, If we can spend a 20 days on a freaking 7 match ODI bilateral series, a month and a half ain't so bad.

From now on, it's just three wins to a World Cup, so pumped I can hardly wait. Can't pick a clear favourite, SA and India lost/tied against England who lost to two minnows. SL and Aus lost to Pakistan, who lost to New Zealand, who lost to the former two. WI have been impressive but lack batting depth. Got to thank England for all the nail biters too

Can't wait, this is going to be so ****ing awesome.

19-03-2011, 07:43 PM	#17 (permalink)
tooextracool International Coach Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: not far away from you Posts: 14,304	Actually thought this one was a pretty good advertisment for the minnows. There are a number of players that made a name for themselves this tournament (Baidwan, Balaji Rao, Kevin O'brien, William Porterfield, George Dockrell, Pieter Seelaar, RTD to name a few). If anything, this world cup has shown that the gap between the minnows and the top of the pile has narrowed considerably. Granted there were still disappointments and the top 8 did scrape through but I have no problem with a group stage involving several minnows. What I dont want to see is a month long group stage that is absolutely meaningless, which is kind of what happened this time. Basically these teams played for a month only to tell us what we already knew, that the top 8 teams in world cricket are South Africa, Australia, England, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, New Zealand and West Indies. __________________ Tendulkar = the most overated player EVER!! Beckham = the most overated footballer EVER!! Vassell = the biggest disgrace since rikki clarke!!

20-03-2011, 01:35 AM	#28 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,621	It's been the most exciting tournament since 99 for me. It's probably succeeded in spite of its format rather than because of it though. 6 group games each feels like maybe a couple too many but the ICC's hands were rather forced after the 2007 tournament. I'm not putting on a tinfoil hat and hiding under my table with the other conspiracy theorists, but it's an undeniable fact that India and, to a lesser extent, Pakistan being eliminated before the Super 8 stage cost millions in advertising revenue. The ICC rather cooked the books to avoid this eventuality this time around and England, advancing despite two losses to minnows, have been the unwitting beneficiaries. Anyway, don't mean to carp, has been thoroughly enjoyable so far and hopefully the KO stages will continue in this vein. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

20-03-2011, 02:18 AM	#30 (permalink)
Daemon Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Posts: 8,759	This is the first WC I have watched properly and with keen interest. Been awesome, loved all the minnow games including thrashing, got to see all the quality players in their sides. It's good to know that with effort, we might have a new "Bangladesh" in Ireland. On the other hand Kenya and Zimbabwe have really deproved over the years, not the players faults maybe but I think it's time to move on from them and focus on Netherlands and Ireland. Love the fact that theres a game to watch everyday, and doing work is made so much less exhausting, albeit distracting, when you can follow a game at the same time. This tournament comes every four years, If we can spend a 20 days on a freaking 7 match ODI bilateral series, a month and a half ain't so bad. From now on, it's just three wins to a World Cup, so pumped I can hardly wait. Can't pick a clear favourite, SA and India lost/tied against England who lost to two minnows. SL and Aus lost to Pakistan, who lost to New Zealand, who lost to the former two. WI have been impressive but lack batting depth. Got to thank England for all the nail biters too Can't wait, this is going to be so ***ing awesome. Last edited by Daemon; 20-03-2011 at 02:23 AM.*

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19-03-2011, 07:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
tooextracool International Coach Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: not far away from you Posts: 14,304	On topic, is this the best world cup in a long time? Yes, best since 1999, but that has almost entirely to do with how even the top 8 are and England being quite generous and nothing to do with the format or the quality of play.

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Somerset Chops School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: England Posts: 73	I think its been a top WC. I like the format to , the only thing i would change is having 2 matches played per day every day throughout the group stages.

19-03-2011, 10:40 PM	#20 (permalink)
stephen International Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: aus Posts: 3,607	Group B has been quite good, but apart from NZ vs Pakistan there really wasn't any good games in group A.

20-03-2011, 12:16 AM	#26 (permalink)
stephen International Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: aus Posts: 3,607	I am enjoying it, but it will be sad not to see an Aus vs SA game at some stage.

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