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    I think Chappell had a point to be honest. Afridi is a decent player but that type of celerbration is not ideal from a skipper, it is almost giving out the message that it is all about him, no real unity or team bonding in such a gesture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Come on, Chappelli wouldn't rip his own flesh and blood a new arsehole live on national TV.

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    Yeah but when family ties are involved you expect a few double standards. It's just natural.
    No it is not. Not at my work place or any other work place I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz View Post
    No it is not. Not at my work place or any other work place I know.
    I see where you are coming from but honestly, an ex-player commentator has generally earned his place as much on his past exploits and is somewhat different to a regular workplace, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhoni_fan View Post
    I think Chappell had a point to be honest. Afridi is a decent player but that type of celerbration is not ideal from a skipper, it is almost giving out the message that it is all about him, no real unity or team bonding in such a gesture.
    oh please give me a break......you might as well say that about every player's celebration.
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    Think of Sreesanth's celebrations for a second





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    If Ian Chappell had a problem with Shahid Afridi's celebration style because of it being detrimental to team bonding, then why did he have an issue with Pakistan's huddle at half time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    Think of Sreesanth's celebrations for a second




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhoni_fan View Post
    I think Chappell had a point to be honest. Afridi is a decent player but that type of celerbration is not ideal from a skipper, it is almost giving out the message that it is all about him, no real unity or team bonding in such a gesture.


    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze 18 View Post
    If Ian Chappell had a problem with Shahid Afridi's celebration style because of it being detrimental to team bonding, then why did he have an issue with Pakistan's huddle at half time?
    Because it's a family channel.And you don't do anything remotely close to bending over around pathans.Sure that's not a problem with 3 pathans in the huddle itself.But..

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    Quote Originally Posted by salman85 View Post
    Because it's a family channel.And you don't do anything remotely close to bending over around pathans.Sure that's not a problem with 3 pathans in the huddle itself.But..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze 18 View Post
    If Ian Chappell had a problem with Shahid Afridi's celebration style because of it being detrimental to team bonding, then why did he have an issue with Pakistan's huddle at half time?
    His issue was not with the huddle it was the timing of it, doing it when the innings had ended, he said they should get off the field and into the dressing rooms, I quite agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    I see where you are coming from but honestly, an ex-player commentator has generally earned his place as much on his past exploits and is somewhat different to a regular workplace, right?
    I am sure he has earned his place to be a commentator or criticize selectively but at the same time we fans have the right to point the inconsistency in his criticism as well. I wasn't even criticizing Chappelli but tying to argue the point someone made earlier in this thread :-

    "....he's also the kind of overly nostalgic guy that thinks everything should be done the way it was in his heyday. He's the grandfather who tells his grandchildren that such shenanigans would not have been stood for in his time."



    So are we saying that celebrations,sendoffs etc didn't happen in his time ?

    Also I find his opinion on certain matters to be biased e.g. Ponting better Captain than Waugh and Border, Really ?

    Also he seems to hammer Afridi based on his behavior and in his opinion "anyone who can't control himself, how can he control the team"

    YouTube - Ian Chappell Part III: 'I would place Ponting ahead of Waugh as a captain'

    Yet he is on record suggesting that Warne would have made a great captain.

    http://ia.rediff.com/cricket/2006/sep/26warne.htm

    That's double standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz View Post
    I am sure he has earned his place to be a commentator or criticize selectively but at the same time we fans have the right to point the inconsistency in his criticism as well. I wasn't even criticizing Chappelli but tying to argue the point someone made earlier in this thread :-

    "....he's also the kind of overly nostalgic guy that thinks everything should be done the way it was in his heyday. He's the grandfather who tells his grandchildren that such shenanigans would not have been stood for in his time."



    So are we saying that celebrations,sendoffs etc didn't happen in his time ?

    Also I find his opinion on certain matters to be biased e.g. Ponting better Captain than Waugh and Border, Really ?

    Also he seems to hammer Afridi based on his behavior and in his opinion "anyone who can't control himself, how can he control the team"

    YouTube - Ian Chappell Part III: 'I would place Ponting ahead of Waugh as a captain'

    Yet he is on record suggesting that Warne would have made a great captain.

    http://ia.rediff.com/cricket/2006/sep/26warne.htm

    That's double standards.
    not arguing any of those points here.. He is usually a good commentator but like all people, he has his faults and his bias against Afridi esp. seems to be the worst. Still feel he is the best out of a bad lot among the commentators around the world though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhoni_fan View Post
    His issue was not with the huddle it was the timing of it, doing it when the innings had ended, he said they should get off the field and into the dressing rooms, I quite agree.
    What is so wrong with a 1 minute huddle at the end of the innings? And they did get off the field and into the dressing room. So what is your point there???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhoni_fan View Post
    His issue was not with the huddle it was the timing of it, doing it when the innings had ended, he said they should get off the field and into the dressing rooms, I quite agree.
    Jesus, their huddle barely lasted a minute! And what is the problem with having a huddle after an innings? You'd have a point if they had stopped play or whatever to do it, but that wasn't the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz View Post
    I am sure he has earned his place to be a commentator or criticize selectively but at the same time we fans have the right to point the inconsistency in his criticism as well. I wasn't even criticizing Chappelli but tying to argue the point someone made earlier in this thread :-

    "....he's also the kind of overly nostalgic guy that thinks everything should be done the way it was in his heyday. He's the grandfather who tells his grandchildren that such shenanigans would not have been stood for in his time."



    So are we saying that celebrations,sendoffs etc didn't happen in his time ?
    I wasn't trying to suggest that. When an old man criticises the youth of today for being too wild, do we really think he wasn't exactly the same when he was in his teens? Of course not. It's that selective nostalgia that some people get when they grow older, Chappelli to me seems to have it in spades.

    Not trying to argue that he's perfectly consistent either, or that he's actually correct here, just that it's not necessarily a bias against Pakistan. Against Afridi quite possibly, but lets face it, he's a divisive figure for a neutral.
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