Have South Africa taken a big step in removing the CHOKERS tag

smalishah84 · 12-03-2011, 11:34 AM

Beating India chasing almost 300. People expected SA might choke especially after their first 4 wickets went down.

Can this be a sign of bigger things to come i.e. putting behind the chokers tag for good?

cricpk · 12-03-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by smalishah84

Beating India chasing almost 300. People expected SA might choke especially after their first 4 wickets went down.

Can this be a sign of bigger things to come i.e. putting behind the chokers tag for good?

First Step would be winning Quarter-Final

vcs · 12-03-2011, 11:40 AM

Did well to hold their nerve, credit to them. The ****s never choke against us anyway (apart from a game in that ODI series recently).

Wish they'd folded in the Cape Town Test instead.

Jono · 12-03-2011, 11:47 AM

No.

If chasing down 434 against Australia in a ODI doesn't remove the tag, why would a win over India?

If chasing down over 400 against Australia in the 4th innings of a test match on Australian soil doesn't take away the tag, why would a win over India?

GIMH · 12-03-2011, 11:50 AM

India's failure to beat any top 8 teams in their home WC mean they deserve the tag now IMO

BoyBrumby · 12-03-2011, 11:54 AM

Yeah, they don't choke every time. It seems to be low totals that maxes out their chokage potential, so chasing a high(ish) score versus a modest bowling unit was always a fair bet.

If they're chasing 220 in a semi versus SL/Pak/Oz:

Blaze 18 · 12-03-2011, 11:57 AM

Nah, I think teams that fail to beat those not in the top eight deserve that tag more.

salman85 · 12-03-2011, 11:57 AM

Nah.

Chokers for eternity and beyond.This match doesn't change it.

BoyBrumby · 12-03-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaze 18

Nah, I think teams that fail to beat those not in the top eight deserve that tag more.

Being **** isn't the same as choking at all.

We arguably choked versus the Banglas when we had them 8 down with over 50 still needed, but I don't think we choked against Ireland. We just came second to an inspired team.

Blaze 18 · 12-03-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Being **** isn't the same as choking at all.

We arguably choked versus the Banglas when we had them 8 down with over 50 still needed, but I don't think we choked against Ireland. We just came second to an inspired team.

Was a tongue-in-cheek reply to GIMH's post. Wasn't really being serious. I would say that letting an associate team chase 330 odd from 111/5 was a bit of a choke though.

smalishah84 · 12-03-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jono

No.

If chasing down 434 against Australia in a ODI doesn't remove the tag, why would a win over India?

If chasing down over 400 against Australia in the 4th innings of a test match on Australian soil doesn't take away the tag, why would a win over India?

Fair points both of these

smalishah84 · 12-03-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Yeah, they don't choke every time. It seems to be low totals that maxes out their chokage potential, so chasing a high(ish) score versus a modest bowling unit was always a fair bet.

If they're chasing 220 in a semi versus SL/Pak/Oz:

haha....I think that is a good theory

Howe_zat · 12-03-2011, 12:18 PM

We've got to the point where people only have to remember South Africa are playing before they bring it up, regardless of what's happening in the match, what just happened, or if they have yet played a match.

SA don't have to do anything to get labeled with it any more, so I don't see what they can do to get rid of it. Until everyone finds it as tiresome as I do, we're stuck with it.

0RI0N · 12-03-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

India's failure to beat any top 8 teams in their home WC mean they deserve the tag now IMO

quoted for truth.

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Originally Posted by salman85

Nah.

Chokers for eternity and beyond.This match doesn't change it.

Thou irate/infuriated/riled that SA won lulz. To quote the mystic PEWS: haters can suck it.
Critisize your own team salman, a team that shipped 0NE HUNDRED RUNS in 5 overs. A team whose batting was exposed by the Canadians eh. Then you have a wk that couldn't catch the black plague even if he tried.

salman85 · 12-03-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 0RI0N

quoted for truth.

Thou irate/infuriated/riled that SA won lulz. To quote the mystic PEWS: haters can suck it.
Critisize your own team salman, a team that shipped 0NE HUNDRED RUNS in 5 overs. A team whose batting was exposed by the Canadians eh. Then you have a wk that couldn't catch the black plague even if he tried.

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BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,629	Yeah, they don't choke every time. It seems to be low totals that maxes out their chokage potential, so chasing a high(ish) score versus a modest bowling unit was always a fair bet. If they're chasing 220 in a semi versus SL/Pak/Oz: __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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Howe_zat International Coach Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Top floor, bottom buzzer Posts: 13,845	We've got to the point where people only have to remember South Africa are playing before they bring it up, regardless of what's happening in the match, what just happened, or if they have yet played a match. SA don't have to do anything to get labeled with it any more, so I don't see what they can do to get rid of it. Until everyone finds it as tiresome as I do, we're stuck with it. __________________ Ain't nothing in the woodshed, except maybe some wood

12-03-2011, 11:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
vcs International Coach Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: India Posts: 10,305	Did well to hold their nerve, credit to them. The ****s never choke against us anyway (apart from a game in that ODI series recently). Wish they'd folded in the Cape Town Test instead.

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Blaze 18 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: India Posts: 4,456	Nah, I think teams that fail to beat those not in the top eight deserve that tag more.

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salman85 State Captain Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Lahore,Pakistan Posts: 1,926	Nah. Chokers for eternity and beyond.This match doesn't change it.

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